The Syria Thread: Everything you wanted to know or say about it

Merge the Syria Threads

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B00Mer

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Well here is an interesting dilemma.. LOL

Iran Plans Attack If U.S. Strikes Syria, Intercepted Order Says



FBI warns Syrian group may increase cyberattacks - NBC News.com




Syria v US - Cyber Attack, Another Pearl Harbor (CNN, 30Aug13) - YouTube


Well, Well, Well...
 

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Canadian Muslims Flocking To Syria To Wage Jihad Against Assad Regime…
The mother of a young Canadian man currently in Syria has been asking for months how and why her son ended up there among a group of extremist fighters.

“How do you sit there and admit to somebody, my son has gone off to fight in a war where I don’t know if he’s a terrorist or not?” the mother said to CBC’s Adrienne Arsenault.

“Are you going to openly admit that? Probably not. ‘Cause the first thing a mother says is, ‘What did I do wrong? How could this be my son? What did I do?”

As she worries about her son, the mother is too scared to reveal her identity.

The situation in Syria threatens to escalate, as a panel of U.S. senators on Wednesday voted to give President Barack Obama the authority to use military action against the Syrian government after the White House said the regime carried out a chemical weapons attack.

Estimates vary as to how many Canadians are jihadi fighters in Syria. Government estimates and others who track jihadi fighters put the figure at a range of a few dozen to as many as 100 fighting in Syria against the government, a figure that should cause alarm, given that the public number of Americans fighting there is much smaller, meaning Canada may be overrepresented.

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The sooner these maggots die, the better.
 

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Nope - I misread his post. As did you. Read it again- He made no such claim.
Boomer- My bad.

Another poster remarkably resilient to facts. I admit, to find the claim that Boomer made would have been very difficult. You would have had to scroll up half a page.

Saddam gave material support to Al Qaeda.

Then he provided a link to prove it. The link was clear that no there was no substantive link between Saddam and Al Qeada.
 

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Zipperfish, you female.. I mean the art of twisting words and trying to shape them into something else is a talent most women master after the first 5 years of marriage..

All I did was compare the reason behind Bush's invasion of Iraq to Obama's potential attack on Syria.

No, what you said was Saddam gave material support to Al Qaeda. This is not borne out in teh historical record and, significantly, it is not borne out in the source you provided to buttress that point.

In point of fact, you were wrong. Had you not stated that Saddam gave material support to Al Qeada, then you could have carried on in your merry little fantasy.
 

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They also claimed Bin-Laden masterminded and funded 9/11 from a remote cave in Afghanistan, that Iraq had a huge stockpile of WMDs and depleted uranium shells are not a cause of cancer & birth defects etc, etc, etc. I wouldn't believe them if they said rain fell from a cloudy sky.

He was not in a cave- He was literally under house arrest by the Taliban. They had removed his communication equipment as they suspected he was up to something.
 

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In point of fact, you were wrong. Had you not stated that Saddam gave material support to Al Qeada, then you could have carried on in your merry little fantasy.

Chill out dude you're looking like an idiot.. droning on about a statement.. calling names.. grow up.

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All I did was compare the reason behind Bush's invasion of Iraq to Obama's potential attack on Syria.

The United States had just been attacked in the worst terrorist attack since Pearl Harbor, thousands died.. he invaded Iraq thinking there was a tie between Saddam and Al Qaeda and other governments supported his findings.. the collocation of the willing. (later debunked along with WMD's)

Obama's reason is the use of Poisons Gas and a red line that if used, the USA would retaliate. The difference here is that International community is not backing him and have doubt to the facts provided by the USA.. other nations have proof that otherwise states it was Al Qaeda that used the gas..

The USA was not attacked, there is no provocation for the USA to act outside International Laws, other than Obama's reputation is now at stake and the USA will look week if they don't attack.

This is all about how the USA will look to the world.. political posture.

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That's it That's all..

BTW, do you support a US attack on Syria?? Yes or NO will suffice.
 

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Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda link allegations were made by U.S. Government officials who claimed that a highly secretive relationship existed between former...

The reason Bush went into Iraq at the time...

Later they were debunked.. blah, blah, blah..

Better than an imaginary Red Line set by Obama as an excuse to attack a sovereign nation against International Laws.

Zipper.
Best read this again.
Boomer I have highlighted a few points. No offense as it is bad form to alter a post.
 

B00Mer

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Zipperfish

I first posted this..

Bush went into Iraq after the USA was attacked on 9/11, what is Obama's provocation, a Red Line??
then I posted this, giving reason why Bush went in..

..a continuation of our conversation and in replies to your statements (posts)..

You try to read between the lines and then attack statements..that's wrong buddy.

I have tried to clarify my statement in more detail, you keep attacking, being insulting and rude.

You might want to take a break from your PC and go for a run..

Personally I'm off to watch The Life and Legend of Wyatt Earp and have dinner.. ;)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF3RAa4nJZA

Have a good weekend buddy
 

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He was not in a cave- He was literally under house arrest by the Taliban. They had removed his communication equipment as they suspected he was up to something.

Well if you are correct then the US undertook an illegal invasion of a sovereign nation on another falsehood because they claimed the Taliban were assisting with fighters and funding and protection. I would think reasonable logic would have the Taliban preventing the invasion keeping their rule of the country if they weren't working with him. Of course Cheney & Rumsfeld were going to invade no matter what the situation, even if the Taliban paraded Osama down Pennsylvania Ave in shackles and cuffs and delivered him to the white house gate.
 

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U.S. military planners don’t support war with Syria - The Washington Post

The tapes tell the tale. Go back and look at images of our nation’s most senior soldier, Gen. Martin Dempsey, and his body language during Tuesday’s Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearings on Syria. It’s pretty obvious that Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, doesn’t want this war. As Secretary of State John Kerry’s thundering voice and arm-waving redounded in rage against Bashar al-Assad’s atrocities, Dempseywas largely (and respectfully) silent.

Dempsey’s unspoken words reflect the opinions of most serving military leaders. By no means do I profess to speak on behalf of all of our men and women in uniform. But I can justifiably share the sentiments of those inside the Pentagon and elsewhere who write the plans and develop strategies for fighting our wars. After personal exchanges with dozens of active and retired soldiers in recent days, I feel confident that what follows represents the overwhelming opinion of serving professionals who have been intimate witnesses to the unfolding events that will lead the United States into its next war.

They are embarrassed to be associated with the amateurism of the Obama administration’s attempts to craft a plan that makes strategic sense. None of the White House staff has any experience in war or understands it. So far, at least, this path to war violates every principle of war, including the element of surprise, achieving mass and having a clearly defined and obtainable objective.

They are repelled by the hypocrisy of a media blitz that warns against the return of Hitlerism but privately acknowledges that the motive for risking American lives is our “responsibility to protect” the world’s innocents. Prospective U.S. action in Syria is not about threats to American security. The U.S. military’s civilian masters privately are proud that they are motivated by guilt over slaughters in Rwanda, Sudan and Kosovo and not by any systemic threat to our country.

They are outraged by the fact that what may happen is an act of war and a willingness to risk American lives to make up for a slip of the tongue about “red lines.” These acts would be for retribution and to restore the reputation of a president. Our serving professionals make the point that killing more Syrians won’t deter Iranian resolve to confront us. The Iranians have already gotten the message.

Our people lament our loneliness. Our senior soldiers take pride in their past commitments to fight alongside allies and within coalitions that shared our strategic goals. This war, however, will be ours alone.

They are tired of wannabe soldiers who remain enamored of the lure of bloodless machine warfare. “Look,” one told me, “if you want to end this decisively, send in the troops and let them defeat the Syrian army. If the nation doesn’t think Syria is worth serious commitment, then leave them alone.” But they also warn that Syria is not Libya or Serbia. Perhaps the United States has become too used to fighting third-rate armies. As the Israelis learned in 1973, the Syrians are tough and mean-spirited killers with nothing to lose.
 

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It is a jerry-rigged howitzer that the FSA has used to lob blue propane canisters filed with explosive several city blocks. It has also been the center of controversy as it has been the primary suspect for those who believe that the gas attack carried out on the night of Aug. 21 outside of Damascus by rebel fighters.

But as any inventor knows, things do not always go according to plan and there will be setbacks with any project. Like this one.The dejection in the operator’s voice is more than evident at 47 seconds in.

FSA canon fire fail +slowmotion - YouTube
 

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It is a jerry-rigged howitzer that the FSA has used to lob blue propane canisters filed with explosive several city blocks. It has also been the center of controversy as it has been the primary suspect for those who believe that the gas attack carried out on the night of Aug. 21 outside of Damascus by rebel fighters.

But as any inventor knows, things do not always go according to plan and there will be setbacks with any project. Like this one.The dejection in the operator’s voice is more than evident at 47 seconds in.

FSA canon fire fail +slowmotion - YouTube

Did not see a blue canister fired?
The below is what works best. From a strategic sense. R=they end up wearing each other down. And another 100 K dead.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/07/w...g-syrian-fighters-after-strike.html?ref=world

VILNIUS, Lithuania — A senior State Department official said on Friday that the military strike the United States is planning would not fundamentally alter the military balance in Syria and would likely be followed by a prolonged “war of attrition” among the Syrian combatants.