Should gangsters get away with murders in exchange for information?

[JLM]

Killer trades Calgary gang info for freedom, court document shows - Calgary - CBC News

What kind of precedence is this going to set? Since they are going that far, perhaps on the Q.T. it would be better just to pay the guy for two heads delivered! How long before this guy turns up at the bottom of the pool in cement shoes? -

 

[SLM]

Deals like this happen all the time. In an ideal world, everyone would be brought to justice for the crimes they commit...but it's far from an ideal world. I think giving a pass to murder has to be weighed very, very carefully though. Look at Homolka.

 

[JLM]

Deals like this happen all the time. In an ideal world, everyone would be brought to justice for the crimes they commit...but it's far from an ideal world. I think giving a pass to murder has to be weighed very, very carefully though. Look at Homolka.

When I even think of her I start puking.

 

[hunboldt]

Killer trades Calgary gang info for freedom, court document shows - Calgary - CBC News

What kind of precedence is this going to set? Since they are going that far, perhaps on the Q.T. it would be better just to pay the guy for two heads delivered! How long before this guy turns up at the bottom of the pool in cement shoes? -

No problem for me if that happens...:lol:

 

[WLDB]

Deals like this happen all the time. In an ideal world, everyone would be brought to justice for the crimes they commit...but it's far from an ideal world. I think giving a pass to murder has to be weighed very, very carefully though. Look at Homolka.

Not just Hamolka. The FLQ members who were responsible for the October crisis all got the equivalent of a slap on the wrist. Kidnapping two people and murdering one definitely deserved a lot more than what they got. One of them actually got a teaching position afterwards which is insane.


Mafia informants wind up living in fear for the rest of their lives for having become an informant. I'd say that in itself is a pretty decent punishment. Looking over your shoulder for decades wondering if they will find you and what they will do if they do. If they have information that could help take down several other murderers or perhaps a boss I'd say go for it and keep the informant under surveillance for the rest of his or her life. Put some conditions on their freedom as well, something like parole. If they violate it they go away.

 

[SLM]

Not just Hamolka. The FLQ members who were responsible for the October crisis all got the equivalent of a slap on the wrist. Kidnapping two people and murdering one definitely deserved a lot more than what they got. One of them actually got a teaching position afterwards which is insane.


Mafia informants wind up living in fear for the rest of their lives for having become an informant. I'd say that in itself is a pretty decent punishment. Looking over your shoulder for decades wondering if they will find you and what they will do if they do. If they have information that could help take down several other murderers or perhaps a boss I'd say go for it and keep the informant under surveillance for the rest of his or her life. Put some conditions on their freedom as well, something like parole. If they violate it they go away.

This is one of the rare times I regret not having the death penalty in this country. A typical 'deal' can often be to take execution off the table in exchange for info and sentence them to prison terms which in and of themselves are sufficient to keep them off the streets....not let them walk free on murder charges.

 

[WLDB]

This is one of the rare times I regret not having the death penalty in this country. A typical 'deal' can often be to take execution off the table in exchange for info and sentence them to prison terms which in and of themselves are sufficient to keep them off the streets....not let them walk free on murder charges.

I still don't. Honestly I would not want to live in any country that has it. I don't want blood on my hands - and we would have it if the wrong person was executed in our name. It has happened before here. Until we get an absolutely perfect legal system I cannot support it no matter what the person may have done. Given we are human I dont imagine a perfect system will be forthcoming. Id rather have 1000 serial killers in jail and alive than to kill them and have one innocent person killed with them. One of the common arguments I have gotten in favour of the death penalty is "if it was your relative or friend who had been killed you'd think differently." It has and it didn't.

 

[SLM]

I still don't. Honestly I would not want to live in any country that has it. I don't want blood on my hands - and we would have it if the wrong person was executed in our name. It has happened before here. Until we get an absolutely perfect legal system I cannot support it no matter what the person may have done. Given we are human I dont imagine a perfect system will be forthcoming. Id rather have 1000 serial killers in jail and alive than to kill them and have one innocent person killed with them. One of the common arguments I have gotten in favour of the death penalty is "if it was your relative or friend who had been killed you'd think differently." It has and it didn't.

Well I don't really either...not really, really. Just would be nice to have it only for the duration of the negotiation with murderous scumbags like this guy so we don't have to let him off the hook for murder. (Mostly just wishful thinking that we could find a magical way to not to have to make a deal with murderers.)

 

[petros]

Justice is a cruel bitch.

 

[JLM]

This is one of the rare times I regret not having the death penalty in this country. A typical 'deal' can often be to take execution off the table in exchange for info and sentence them to prison terms which in and of themselves are sufficient to keep them off the streets....not let them walk free on murder charges.

You bet, Ol' Sparky (or the Canadian equivalent) can sure come in handy at times! -

I still don't. Honestly I would not want to live in any country that has it. I don't want blood on my hands - and we would have it if the wrong person was executed in our name. It has happened before here. Until we get an absolutely perfect legal system I cannot support it no matter what the person may have done. Given we are human I dont imagine a perfect system will be forthcoming. Id rather have 1000 serial killers in jail and alive than to kill them and have one innocent person killed with them. One of the common arguments I have gotten in favour of the death penalty is "if it was your relative or friend who had been killed you'd think differently." It has and it didn't.

I hear you BUT our system is killing thousands of innocent people every year!

 

[petros]

They'll find something else to pin on him. One day he'll be pulled over and busted a for a big bag of cocaine in his car that wasn't there when they pulled him over.