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gerryh

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I've said it before.. but once people have run out of the threadbare arguments that homosexuality and heterosexuality are just different orientations of the same biological function and social interaction.. or whatever.. then they attack people like me who state it is night and day.. opposites in moral character.. BY saying they are closet homosexuals.

To which my stock reply is... that if the worst insult you can throw at me is the i'm 'gay'.. then if i really was.. i'd be thinking, with friends like these who needs enemies.

It's all part of the fabric of lies and hypocrisy that surrond the homosexual agenda.


Like I said, this is ALL westmanguy by rote before he came out of the closet. Same arguments, same admonishments. Including this last one.
 

coldstream

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How do you explain gay animals?


LOL.. there are NO gay animals.. I always get a laugh out the homosexual argument that if they lower themselves to the level of beasts they can find some credibility for homosexual 'normalcy'.

First all human sexuality is completely unique in the symbolism, mystique and context in marital relationships and religious obligation. To animals it is simply a biological function.. which they'll indulge in out of instinct.. without a hint of fore or after thought as to 'meaning' or 'moral responsibility'.

All so called animal homosexuality involves some type of confusion, often in conditions of stress and over crowding.. usually by inexperienced adolescents
 

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I believe all heterosexual sex.. is rooted in marital fidelity, love and procreation of children. I believe all homosexual sex is rooted in profligate anonymous sexual encounters.. completely transient, compensatory to psychological distress and based on power, lust and exploitation.

Now its quite possible that heterosexual sex can fall into the same transient and exploitive character as homosexuality.. and it's possible that homosexual sex can rise to the level of some type of companionship in misery.. but you should never mistake that with real love or matrimony. Those are both gifts and sacraments of God.. and unfortunately He a proscribed homosexuality as fundamentally disordered and sinful.

So.. you'll just never make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
Nice dodge. Now answer the f*cking question.

And get over the notion that your screen of bullsh*t works on me.
 

karrie

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I believe all heterosexual sex.. is rooted in marital fidelity, love and procreation of children. I believe all homosexual sex is rooted in profligate anonymous sexual encounters.. completely transient, compensatory to psychogical distress and based on power, lust and exploitation.

Now its quite possible that heterosexual sex can fall into the same transient and exploitive character as homosexuality.. and it's possible that homosexual sex can rise to the level of some type of companionship in misery.. but you should never mistake that with real love, or matrimony. Those are both gifts and sacraments of God.. and unfortunately He a proscribed homosexuality as fundamentally disordered and sinful.

So.. you'll just never make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

You heavily contradict yourself with the above statements. 'All of it is this way, except for the times it's not.'


The long and short of it is, homosexuality, due to social pressure, used to be hidden, shameful, and due to those pressures, often many of the things you say. As a culture, gay men celebrated their exclusion from 'normal' society by embracing promiscuity. To do otherwise was risky. Gay women on the other hand, had it a bit easier, as 'spinsters' living together didn't elicit the same anger and paranoia as men living together.

The pressures that created that lifestyle are slowly but surely fading into history though, and now individuals can simply be individuals. For example, even some homosexuals I know no longer embrace the pride parade mentality, as its sexually decadent attitude clashes with their committed marriages, and isn't a spectacle they want their children attending, and forming stereotyped ideas of who their parents are, and what their sex life is like.
 

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No "He" didn't. No where did "God" or Jesus say anything of the sort. Leviticus, which is Jewish law and NOT God's law makes the statement and then paul carry's on with the bullshyte by quoting leviticus during his many ramblings. Hopefully our new Pope will get things right and put idiots like you in your place.

Acts 15:20.
 

karrie

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I've said it before.. but once people have run out of the threadbare arguments that homosexuality and heterosexuality are just different orientations of the same biological function and social interaction.. or whatever.. then they attack people like me who state it is night and day.. opposites in moral character.. BY saying they are closet homosexuals.

To which my stock reply is... that if the worst insult you can throw at me is the i'm 'gay'.. then if i really was.. i'd be thinking, with friends like these who needs enemies.

It's all part of the fabric of lies and hypocrisy that surrond the homosexual agenda.


While I don't agree with attempting to insult posters (even though I've failed at my own standards plenty in the past), it's not an insult to gay people to wonder where twisted notions of who and what they are, come from.

For example, it's pretty simple, when you hear a man say sexuality is a choice, to understand that by that he means he gets turned on by other men, but chooses to stick with women instead. It's spelled out clearly. Their bisexuality confuses their perception of 'choice' for other people, they can't help but assume everyone thinks and feels like they do. So to get to the root of the issue, people are bound to attempt to address it. If someone finds it insulting to have it pointed out, that's again, their feelings, not necessarily reflective of the rest of the world.

You have to also bear in mind, that you are insulting the friends and family of posters on this forum, when you state that their lives are evidence of a lack of moral character. And they reply to you accordingly.

I wouldn't score it as a victory if I were you. You've far from made your case, and you haven't even scratched the surface of the counter arguments people have for you.
 

coldstream

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You heavily contradict yourself with the above statements. 'All of it is this way, except for the times it's not.'


The long and short of it is, homosexuality, due to social pressure, used to be hidden, shameful, and due to those pressures, often many of the things you say. As a culture, gay men celebrated their exclusion from 'normal' society by embracing promiscuity.

The pressures that created that lifestyle are slowly but surely fading into history though, and now individuals can simply be individuals. For example, even some homosexuals I now no longer embrace the pride parade mentality, as its sexually decadent attitude clashes with their committed marriages, and isn't a spectacle they want their children attending, and forming stereotyped ideas of who their parents are, and what their sex life is like.


Good grief.. you don't really believe that do you Karrie. Shame is fundamental to homosexuality.. no pastiche of social affirmation and acceptance is going to change that. And the decadence is the elixir of homosexuality.. its intrigue is in its rebellion against society.. but especially God..

There are NO committed 'marriages' in the the homosexual world... just transient partnerships in misery.
 
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karrie

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Good grief.. you don't really believe that do you Karrie. Shame is fundamental to the homosexuality.. no pastiche of social affirmation and acceptance is going to change that. And the decadence is the elixir of homosexuality.. its intrigue is in its rebellion against society.. but especially God..

There are NO committed 'marriages' in the the homosexual world. just transient partnerships in misery.

Again, you're attempting to project your emotions regarding it, onto others.

I know plenty of committed gay couples. Great marriages. Wonderful families. One angry person on the internet does not a reality make. The real world holds much more truth than your words.
 

coldstream

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While I don't agree with attempting to insult posters (even though I've failed at my own standards plenty in the past), it's not an insult to gay people to wonder where twisted notions of who and what they are, come from.

For example, it's pretty simple, when you hear a man say sexuality is a choice, to understand that by that he means he gets turned on by other men, but chooses to stick with women instead. It's spelled out clearly. Their bisexuality confuses their perception of 'choice' for other people, they can't help but assume everyone thinks and feels like they do. So to get to the root of the issue, people are bound to attempt to address it. If someone finds it insulting to have it pointed out, that's again, their feelings, not necessarily reflective of the rest of the world.

You have to also bear in mind, that you are insulting the friends and family of posters on this forum, when you state that their lives are evidence of a lack of moral character. And they reply to you accordingly.

I wouldn't score it as a victory if I were you. You've far from made your case, and you haven't even scratched the surface of the counter arguments people have for you.

I go out of my way to condemn the sin and NOT the sinner in my posts. It is you who is insulting people by stating that this immoral affectation.. this rebellion against natural law and God.. this compensatory distraction to inner moral turmoil.. utterly defines an individual.

It's sad the so many people have fallen for this propaganda and find their lives revolving around the insatiable expectations of the homosexual lifestyle.. one that will produce nothing but misery and futility after the immedate gratification is exhausted.
 

coldstream

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You go out of your way to lie like Old Nick himself with statements like "all homosexuals practice anonymous sex in public bathrooms and back alleys."

How's that square with Ninth Commandment?

Read my posts.. i never said ALL.. i did say ALL homosexuality is rooted in profligate anonymous sex. But i'm not surprised you can't pick up on the fine distinction.
 

karrie

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I go out of my way to condemn the sin and NOT the sinner in my posts. It is you who is insulting people by stating that this immoral affectation.. this rebellion against natural law and God.. this compensatory distraction to inner moral turmoil.. utterly defines an individual.

It's sad the so many people have fallen for this propaganda and find their lives revolving around the insatiable expectations of the homosexual lifestyle.. one that will produce nothing but misery and futility after the immedate gratification is exhausted.

Ah, so your implication is that they should simply be able to walk away from their sexuality, the people they love, and then they will be happy? Because sexuality isn't our whole character?

Well, if such is the case, I'd challenge you to walk away from anyone you love, walk away from your family, and go be gay for a while. See how much your heterosexuality and your family define you.
 

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Read my posts.. i never said ALL.. i did say ALL homosexuality is rooted in profligate anonymous sex. But i'm not surprised you can't pick up on the fine distinction.

Read your posts. Relevant quotes follow. . .

coldstream: "And i don't feel a need to have anonymous sex in public rest rooms or back alleys with complete strangers." Post #42

Tecumsehsbones: "Are you claiming straights don't have anonymous sex in strange places?" Post #44

coldstream: "okay.. yeah there are some heterosexuals who act just like all homosexuals." Post #48

Out of your own mouth, baby!