Then it would seem that the Protestant Churches were heavily involved, would it not?
Kinda makes the original statement that they were not involved a little misleading
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Then it would seem that the Protestant Churches were heavily involved, would it not?
Kinda makes the original statement that they were not involved a little misleading
There's a difference between Protestant Churches and the Protestant Churches. The, unless qualified, would imply all protestand Churches without exception.
And that, insofar as it is a "woe," it is not made more or less so by the particular flavour of Christianity that ran this or that school.
I'm forced to agree.
The Churches never rounded up kids, the Govt did and paid the Churches to run the schools just like how Churches ran all the other damn schools at the time. "Public" schools didn't come around until afterward.
Schools back in the day all followed the same guidelines for any kid who wasn't English. Beat their language and culture out of them and make the English.
You can't blame Churches for todays dropout rates, you can't blame churches, for the lure to drugs and alcohol in today's world.
That's not a Church chip on the shoulders of todays Native youth.
Yup. They were all in it together.
And as you so aptly point out, time to get the F over it. The Indians and First Nations have plenty of challenges to deal with without wasting time, energy, and money on something that, horrible as it was, is over.
You have not read up much on teh rez schools have you.
first off, the schools could call on the RCMP to round up the kids. There were some cases where the RCMP had heard such horror stories that they'd refuse.
And medical experiments were not normal fare in white schools.
Also, in spite of the high death rate, the government knew but didn't care. Assimilation at all costs regardless of death rates. Etc. etc. etc. And if parents refused to send their kids there, they could be arrested and sent to jail.
like underfunding for schools today?
But if they 'get over it', and they don't sit and wait to hear about and dwell in heir victimhood, then they'll just join the rest of the country. And united citizenries are not cool. It's too hard to control a country where the people are united and content.
Among other things. Underfunding of damn near everything, lousy infrastructure, chronic unemployment, poor health care, sexual abuse, child abuse, violent crime, alcoholism, drug abuse, teen pregnancy, and trying to figure out what the f*ck it means to be an "Indian" in the 21st century anyway.
NONE of these problems is alleviated in any way by pissing and moaning over the residential schools or boarding schools.
Who gave them the authority to call RCMP? Who gave public school the authority to call the truancy cops on white kids?
How do you know no white kids were experimented on? You have something to back that up? Canada's eugenic past didn't just nail Natives did it?
How do you know if you aren't being experimented on at this very moment?
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I didn't say that. As I said in another post, my own vision for U.S. Indians is to take over a state (by polticial means), pass "Indian-friendly" laws within the confines of the Constitution and Federal law, and then settle down to a debate over what the hell it means to be an Indian in the here-and-now anyroad.
Then individual Indians can decide if they're most comfortable "out in the world" or if they'd prefer to stay in the "Indian-friendly" state.
I'm not sure what you mean by "join the rest of the country," but if it means buying into the Eurocentric worldview that seems to dominate the thinking of most Americans, I'll pass, thanks.
Canada may be different. Arrogant bas tard that I am, I ain't stupid enough to try to tell you about Canada.
My mother-in-law was one of the poor white kids sent to residential school. She bears the emotional scars the same as everyone else, and the physical maladies that resulted from the diet, abuse, and work load. Comparing residential school to a public school where kids went home to their parents at night is impossible folks.
That's a horrid idea. Segregation breeds illness, whether it's a black, native, or white community setting itself apart from the rest of the world. Conscious segregation breeds paranoia and contempt, whether it's forced or voluntary. The cat has been let out of the bag, and there's no stuffing it back in.
That's a horrid idea. Segregation breeds illness, whether it's a black, native, or white community setting itself apart from the rest of the world. Conscious segregation breeds paranoia and contempt, whether it's forced or voluntary. The cat has been let out of the bag, and there's no stuffing it back in.
Kinda like saying "Some Jews were murdered in the U.S., so that's no different from the Shoah."
As I said, way past time to GTF over it, but false equivalencies won't help.