Pope Francis- Another positive change

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It is pragmatism.

Pragmatic, or his personal Religious belief. We will never know. Regardless it is a positive step.
Other issues are the Child Abuse - Abusers- those that protected them - and the Vatican Bank.
Add in the power brokers that ran / abused their positions within the Vatican.
 

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Pragmatic, or his personal Religious belief. We will never know. Regardless it is a positive step.
Other issues are the Child Abuse - Abusers- those that protected them - and the Vatican Bank.
Add in the power brokers that ran / abused their positions within the Vatican.

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The lobby in the Vatican, acknowledged by Francis, that openly flaunts standards of behaviour.
The unequal treatment of women
 

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He SHOULD judge gay priests.

The Catholic Church should always teach its traditional teachings, not change its teachings just to suit society.
 

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He SHOULD judge gay priests.

The Catholic Church should always teach its traditional teachings, not change its teachings just to suit society.


No he shouldn't "judge" them, and that would not be changing the teachings of Christ.
 

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No he shouldn't "judge" them, and that would not be changing the teachings of Christ.

The Catholic Church should be teaching the beliefs of the Catholic Church, not swapping its beliefs for the beliefs of certain other people.
 

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The Catholic Church should be teaching the beliefs of the Catholic Church, not swapping its beliefs for the beliefs of certain other people.
Does the archbishop of Canterbury judge gay priests in the Anglican church? What do you think of their gay priests?
 

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It was the first that popped into my head. Another one is evolution. More current? The likelihood of some magician poofing life on Earth as opposed to life's elements landing here on Earth and eventually forming life (which has since been replicated by humans, not gods).
 

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Does the archbishop of Canterbury judge gay priests in the Anglican church? What do you think of their gay priests?

The Archbishop of Canterbury should stick to teaching traditional Church of England teachings, not change Church of England teachings just to suit certain elements of society, such as they gay rights people. The Church should stand up for what it believes it and carry on teaching those beliefs. That's what the Church is for.

I don't change my beliefs just because a few people in society have differing beliefs. I stick to them. The Church is supposed to do the same.
 

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I assume you are Catholic?
Of course not. Telling the Catholic church what it should and should not do is as old an English pastime as murdering Catholics and stealing Catholic church property. Getting on for half a millennium now.

I don't change my beliefs just because a few people in society have differing beliefs. I stick to them.
In the face of all evidence to the contrary.
 

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Telling the Catholic church what it should and should not do is as old an English pastime as murdering Catholics and stealing Catholic church property.

The Catholics started it.

Never heard of the Gunpowder Plot? They brought it all onto themselves, I'm afraid. I'm looking forward to November 5th when I can set fire to an effigy of Guy fawkes or the Pope again.

And we all know that Catholics themselves have murdered MILLIONS of people - as well as sexually abused many of them.
 

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Then may I suggest you STFU about what you obviously know not.

I will say again.

The Catholic Church should stick to what IT believes in, not start coming out with teachings in contradiction of its traditional beliefs just to suit certain elements of society. That's the whole point in having a Church to start off with. It should stick to its traditional beliefs, not change them to suit certain people.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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The Catholics started it.

Never heard of the Gunpowder Plot?

And we all know that Catholics themselves have murdered MILLIONS of people - as well as sexually abused many of them.
Of course they have. The Catholic church eagerly participated in most of England's genocides.

Heard of the Gunpowder Plot. Now here's a question for you. Was the Gunpowder Plot before or after Henry VIII's seizure of the Catholic church's property?

Here's another one. Do you know what the word "started" means? Or are you as confused by "before" and "after" as you are about "consent," Alf?
 

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Anglican Church facing the threat of extinction - The Globe and Mail
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According to the report, the diocese - "like most across Canada" - is in crisis. The report repeats, without qualification or question, the results of a controversial study presented to Anglican bishops five years ago that said that at the present rate of decline - a loss of 13,000 members per year - only one Anglican would be left in Canada by 2061.
 

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I will say again.

The Catholic Church should stick to what IT believes in, not start coming out with teachings in contradiction of its traditional beliefs just to suit certain elements of society. That's the whole point in having a Church to start off with. It should stick to its traditional beliefs, not change them to suit certain people.


:roll: Typical attitude of a closed minded twat. Can't change it even if it's wrong, it's "tradition".
 

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Anglican Church facing the threat of extinction - The Globe and Mail
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According to the report, the diocese - "like most across Canada" - is in crisis. The report repeats, without qualification or question, the results of a controversial study presented to Anglican bishops five years ago that said that at the present rate of decline - a loss of 13,000 members per year - only one Anglican would be left in Canada by 2061.
Then somebody shoots that ba stard, and Canada can get on with governing itself by sense and reason.

Too bad we can't accelerate the timetable some. Like to about next Thursday.