Zimmerman NOT guilty

[Tecumsehsbones]

He didn't show bad judgement...Trayvon did when he attacked him.....



On another note.....The Herd

Absolutely. A herd of bovine asswits all out to demonstrate their collective failure to understand what happened. While people who are in every way their superiors work overtime to placate their ignorant mooing.

Where's a pissed-off Chechen-born Muslim student with a pressure cooker when you need one?

 

[Mowich]

I don't know a single black man who doesn't have many stories of being followed around by store employees, having people avoid them on the streets, lock their car doors when they walk by, call the police, &c.

I guess every one of them is delusional, whining, or lying, because we've established that race is never, ever a factor.

Often, as I listened to the President's speech and his recounting of racial incidents in his past, I couldn't help but wonder how many FN people watching the speech would be nodding their heads in complete understanding.

 

[JLM]

I think perhaps people are being a little hard on Zimmerman. He was found not guilty by his peers. Just wish there had been 12 of them. Might have been a little more convincing!

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I think perhaps people are being a little hard on Zimmerman. He was found not guilty by his peers. Just wish there had been 12 of them. Might have been a little more convincing!

I agree. I was actually surprised that Florida would try such a severe charge with so small a jury.

As far as Zimmerman goes, is he an asswit? Absolutely. A moronic wannabe with a Dirty Harry complex? You bet. A vigilante? Almost certainly. But the fact remains that he had done nothing illegal when Martin attacked him and presented him with a very credible threat of imminent death or severe bodily harm. Which is the definition of the justification for self-defence.

Zimmerman was and is a waste of oxygen. But if that was a crime, the jails would be stuffed to the rafters, and the three percent of us left free would have a heck of a lot of work to do.

 

[Goober]

I agree. I was actually surprised that Florida would try such a severe charge with so small a jury.

As far as Zimmerman goes, is he an asswit? Absolutely. A moronic wannabe with a Dirty Harry complex? You bet. A vigilante? Almost certainly. But the fact remains that he had done nothing illegal when Martin attacked him and presented him with a very credible threat of imminent death or severe bodily harm. Which is the definition of the justification for self-defence.

Zimmerman was and is a waste of oxygen. But if that was a crime, the jails would be stuffed to the rafters, and the three percent of us left free would have a heck of a lot of work to do.

Glad I am a 3 percenter.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Often, as I listened to the President's speech and his recounting of racial incidents in his past, I couldn't help but wonder how many FN people watching the speech would be nodding their heads in complete understanding.

They're not as annoying as the ones who insist that we have some kind of special connection to Mother Earth and Father Sky.

I despise pro-Indian racists even more than I do anti-Indian racists.

 

[Sal]

I agree. I was actually surprised that Florida would try such a severe charge with so small a jury.

As far as Zimmerman goes, is he an asswit? Absolutely. A moronic wannabe with a Dirty Harry complex? You bet. A vigilante? Almost certainly. But the fact remains that he had done nothing illegal when Martin attacked him and presented him with a very credible threat of imminent death or severe bodily harm. Which is the definition of the justification for self-defence.

Zimmerman was and is a waste of oxygen. But if that was a crime, the jails would be stuffed to the rafters, and the three percent of us left free would have a heck of a lot of work to do.

it's Florida, helloooooooooooo, what could be more important than keeping their octogenarians from killing each other in their cars and keeping the snow birds happy

 

[DaSleeper]

I agree. I was actually surprised that Florida would try such a severe charge with so small a jury.

As far as Zimmerman goes, is he an asswit? Absolutely. A moronic wannabe with a Dirty Harry complex? You bet. A vigilante? Almost certainly. But the fact remains that he had done nothing illegal when Martin attacked him and presented him with a very credible threat of imminent death or severe bodily harm. Which is the definition of the justification for self-defence.

Zimmerman was and is a waste of oxygen. But if that was a crime, the jails would be stuffed to the rafters, and the three percent of us left free would have a heck of a lot of work to do.

Finally, you say something I can agree with... the rest...I can agree that he showed poor judgement in a few of his decisions....but not being in his situation that night I can't make a definite decision on it.

 

[Mowich]

I think perhaps people are being a little hard on Zimmerman. He was found not guilty by his peers. Just wish there had been 12 of them. Might have been a little more convincing!

I guess you could say 'people are being 'hard' on George if by that you mean he has been forced into hiding; will probably never feel safe again in open society; always looking over his shoulder; fearful that someone might attack his family. But then many would say it is small price to pay for his freedom.

I don't think another six jurors would have come up with a different verdict. The Prosecution failed to make its case. The jury had no choice given their instructions but to find George Zimmerman - not guilty. The jurors I have heard speak sound extremely convincing.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Finally, you say something I can agree with.

Damn! The Streak comes to an end.

Now we have to start all over!

 

[DaSleeper]

They're not as annoying as the ones who insist that we have some kind of special connection to Mother Earth and Father Sky.

I despise pro-Indian racists even more than I do anti-Indian racists.

You would be surprised at how many in this forum have enough blood in them to have a "Status" or "Métis" card but don't go around bragging on it or wave it around like it gives them special rights or perceived priviledges.....

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Glad I am a 3 percenter.

You are indeed. You might be surprised, though, at some of the people here I'd put in the 3%.

 

[Mowich]

Professor Barack 'I Am Trayvon' Obama Gets 'Stand Your Ground' Law Wrong



In his unfortunate remarks about the Zimmerman verdict Friday, Obama said something about "stand your ground" laws that reflects popular misconceptions seen on social media--hardly befitting a law "professor":

And for those who resist that idea that we should think about something like these “stand your ground” laws, I just ask people to consider if Trayvon Martin was of age and armed, could he have stood his ground on that sidewalk? And do we actually think that he would have been justified in shooting Mr. Zimmerman, who had followed him in a car, because he felt threatened?
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The answer is no. No one may use lethal force, either under "Stand Your Ground" laws or classic self-defense doctrine, without a reasonable fear of "death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another." Merely feeling "threatened" is not enough. Martin's fear, based on the evidence, would have been unreasonable.

Obama should know better. And he probably does. The only purpose for distorting the law here is to make a racial argument--namely, that "if a white male teen was involved in the same kind of scenario, that, from top to bottom, both the outcome and the aftermath might have been different," as Obama said. To his discredit.


Professor Barack 'I Am Trayvon' Obama Gets 'Stand Your Ground' Law Wrong

This guy should just stfu and get back in the kitchen...maybe make us a sandwich.

I was expecting that the man who holds the highest office in his country to reiterate his belief in the laws of the land. Would have been nice to hear that Barry.

I was certainly surprised to hear him bring the 'stand your ground' law -which had nothing to what-so-ever do with the trial - into the conversation.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

You would be surprised at how many in this forum have enough blood in them to have a "Status" or "Métis" card but don't go around bragging on it or wave it around like it gives them special rights or perceived priviledges.....

Excellent start on a new streak.

Blow me.

 

[JLM]

I guess you could say 'people are being 'hard' on George if by that you mean he has been forced into hiding; will probably never feel safe again in open society; always looking over his shoulder; fearful that someone might attack his family. But then many would say it is small price to pay for his freedom.

I don't think another six jurors would have come up with a different verdict. The Prosecution failed to make its case. The jury had no choice given their instructions but to find George Zimmerman - not guilty. The jurors I have heard speak sound extremely convincing.

The bottom line is if you are going to disagree with the jury, then you have to have more knowledge about the situation than they do and I don't, so that's my rationale. I believe for the system to be fair once a person is acquitted, then he should be able to continue life as an ordinary citizen, unless someone with more knowledge brings it forth as more evidence. Even that is a little shaky!

 

[DaSleeper]

Excellent start on a new streak.

Blow me.

You Do have illusions of adequacy....:roll:
even if you are a woman.......

 

[Mowich]

it's Florida, helloooooooooooo, what could be more important than keeping their octogenarians from killing each other in their cars and keeping the snow birds happy

And continually rebuilding their 'castles' in the sand.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

You Do have illusions of adequacy....:roll:
even if you are a woman.......

And you have delusions of being funny.

Which in a way, you are. But not in the way you intend.

Even if you are a rat turd.

 

[L Gilbert]

Why did it take so long for this to become known?

Lamestream media muddying up the issue with its usual pile of crap.

 

[Mowich]

The bottom line is if you are going to disagree with the jury, then you have to have more knowledge about the situation than they do and I don't, so that's my rationale. I believe for the system to be fair once a person is acquitted, then he should be able to continue life as an ordinary citizen, unless someone with more knowledge brings it forth as more evidence. Even that is a little shaky!

I highly doubt the DOJ will be pressing any charges against Zimmerman. A civil case is another matter. It will be interesting to see what comes of his suit against NBC. He was not a racist. He was charged with a felony when he went after a cop who was beating a black man. He was very vocal about the police treatment of black people.