Scott Walker signs restrictive abortion bill in Wisconsin

Machjo

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Fair enough. I personally don't know many outside the catholic church who are anti-abortion so my personal experience leads me to believe a majority are pro-choice.

Now how about that raped 11 year old G? Does she get a termination or not? Are you scared to answer the question?

I believe life begins at conception, and I do not profess the Catholic Faith.

Also, I've heard of cases of pro-life atheists. I've not met any myself, but considering the scientific validity of life beginning at conception, it doesn't surprise me.

Some will come up with the rape argument. No doubt that puts her in a difficult situation through no fault of her own, and certainly society should help her. However, if we accept that human life begins at conception, clearly killing the baby is not an option.
 

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It's a Catholic thing? If that's the case, the 46% of Canadians who are Catholic wouldn't need much help from the other 54% to make it a majority.


Is your sister that he boinked still alive?
that is disgusting, where are you coming from are you so lost in your anti abortion rheteric that you have lost all semblance of decency?
 

PoliticalNick

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of course it's a Catholic thing. Haven't you figured that out yet? Everything with nicky is a "Catholic" thing.

I don't limit it to catholics...I hate all religions equally. Just a bunch of idiots who use some fictional explanation of the unexplainable to control the masses.
 

gerryh

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Yep...I knew you were f*cked in the head, thanks for admitting it.



yup..... better to go your way. Kill an innocent that had nothing to do with the crime. I suppose you would also support killing the other children of a rapist?
 

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yup..... better to go your way. Kill an innocent that had nothing to do with the crime. I suppose you would also support killing the other children of a rapist?

No G. I support the rapist and his spouse making their own decision. I also support the 11 year old victim making her own decision to keep or terminate the fetus. You see that, I support individual's choice.
 

gerryh

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No G. I support the rapist and his spouse making their own decision. I also support the 11 year old victim making her own decision to keep or terminate the fetus. You see that, I support individual's choice.



you support killing an innocent.
 

Machjo

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No G. I support the rapist and his spouse making their own decision. I also support the 11 year old victim making her own decision to keep or terminate the fetus. You see that, I support individual's choice.

The problem with that is that the fetus is a human being. How do you balance her rights with its? That's like saying you have the right to kill me.
 

gerryh

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The problem with that is that the fetus is a human being. How do you balance her rights with its? That's like saying you have the right to kill me.


No, nicky has already stated that the "fetus" is nothing more than a parasite, a growth. He has equated it to being a cancer.
 

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The problem with that is that the fetus is a human being. How do you balance her rights with its? That's like saying you have the right to kill me.

According to the law it isn't. It is only individual's opinions that it is a human being at that point.

Of course I balance all rights the same way, my life is more important to me than yours or anybody else's so in the right situation I would kill you without a second thought.
 

Machjo

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If I did not believe a fetus to be human, I'd have no qualms about a rape victim being allowed an abortion, and I truly can appreciate the difficulties involved. Again, society should provide her its full support whether she keep the baby or give it away. And certainly it would not be fair for her to be penalized should keeping the baby stand in the way of saving money for education, etc. However, there is still that pesky detail. It's human.
 

Machjo

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According to the law it isn't. It is only individual's opinions that it is a human being at that point.

Of course I balance all rights the same way, my life is more important to me than yours or anybody else's so in the right situation I would kill you without a second thought.

So if I were just a pesky nuisance, you'd kill me without a second thought?

OK, being sarcastic, I'm sure you didn't quitre mean it that way. But on the point of law, yes abortion is legal. so are smoking, drinking, gambling, even being stupid in other ways within certain parameters. The fact that it is legal does not make it right.

At one point the RCMP and Indian agents had a right, nay an obligation to legally remove children from their parents to send them to residential school. The Constitution gives the government the right, nay an obligation to discriminate in favour of 'the two founding races' in its language policy. Then we have the separate schools. The fact that it's legal doe snot make it right.