Scott Walker signs restrictive abortion bill in Wisconsin

PoliticalNick

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so you have no problem with the likes of Paul Bernardo, Clifford Olson, or mothers who kill their baby's.

Your continual comparisons of people who have an abortion to serial murderers makes you a joke. Is a 12 year old who was raped by her step-dad the same as Olsen? What about someone like my sister with a blood disorder where pregnancy would most likely kill her?

Here's a question for you G....if your wife was prego and the doctor told you she would die during labour would you terminate the pregnancy or let your wife die?
 

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John Andrew Welden was indicted Tuesday by a federal grand jury on charges of
product tampering and first-degree murder and faces up to life in prison if
convicted of the murder charge. He's also the defendant in a lawsuit filed in
state court by his ex-girlfriend, 26-year-old Remee Lee.





"Whenever a woman is robbed of her ability to give birth and have a child, I
don't think there's any greater harm you can cause somebody," said Lee's
attorney, Gil Sanchez. "She's devastated. She still can't believe this happened
to her."
He tricked her and was charged?

If you feed a bunch of malarkey to a woman about getting fat, unable to get an education, will be impoverished, will be burdened and lose their youth that is not trickery?

WTF?
 

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You don't see the contradiction here?
No.Humans are out of balance. I do not want humans to go extinct or go away. I want them to wake up to the fact that we are becoming like a disease on this planet and destroying (as in making extinct) other life forms. We have put ourselves above all others. The passage in the bible was not about dominating nature, it was about stewardship. We have forgotten our role and become ravenous consumers instead.
 

petros

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According to the law of Canada yes. You have an issue with that write a letter to your MP. Petition parliament to make a change. They are far too busy stealing our money to line their own pockets to care but go ahead and try.
Fetal protection laws are already in place.

No.Humans are out of balance. I do not want humans to go extinct or go away. I want them to wake up to the fact that we are becoming like a disease on this planet and destroying (as in making extinct) other life forms. We have put ourselves above all others. The passage in the bible was not about dominating nature, it was about stewardship. We have forgotten our role and become ravenous consumers insrtead.
No we aren't. Where did you get that silly idea?


Ahhhhhhhh, it's just another angle to slam the bible.

Now it's clear what your intentions are.
 

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I'll give Cliffy the benefit of the doubt that he doesn't actually support murder but just disagrees with the scientific basis of human life beginning at conception. But yes, if we take his latest posts at face value, it does appear that he just hates humanity and thinks of us as mere parasites and that the sooner mankind becomes extinct the better. If indeed I've read that right, then I don't even know where to start in finding common ground.
 

PoliticalNick

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Your continual comparisons of people who have an abortion to serial murderers makes you a joke. Is a 12 year old who was raped by her step-dad the same as Olsen? What about someone like my sister with a blood disorder where pregnancy would most likely kill her?

Here's a question for you G....if your wife was prego and the doctor told you she would die during labour would you terminate the pregnancy or let your wife die?

Yep, didn't think Gerry would answer the question. How about we open it up to all the other pro-lifers on here...If your wife was pregnant but guaranteed to die during childbirth would you choose a termination or let your wife die?
 

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Here's a question for you G....if your wife was prego and the doctor told you she would die during labour would you terminate the pregnancy or let your wife die?



It happened, we said no to the abortion, we had to find a new specialist as the original doctor refused to treat my wife. Our 7th was born 4 weeks early, 8lbs 4oz, and healthy as an ox. So much for the doctors predictions.
 

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I'll give Cliffy the benefit of the doubt that he doesn't actually support murder but just disagrees with the scientific basis of human life beginning at conception. But yes, if we take his latest posts at face value, it does appear that he just hates humanity and thinks of us as mere parasites and that the sooner mankind becomes extinct the better. If indeed I've read that right, then I don't even know where to start in finding common ground.
Anytime he wants to volunteer to save the earth by suicide, I'll support his decision.
 

petros

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It happened, we said no to the abortion, we had to find a new specialist as the original doctor refused to treat my wife. Our 7th was born 4 weeks early, 8lbs 4oz, and healthy as an ox. So much for the doctors predictions.
Did you get fat?
 

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Including laws about termination. So what is the big argument here. The people of Canada have spoken in a democracy and the majority support legal terminations. Live with it.


No they haven't. Canada has no laws in force concerning abortion. A woman an get an abortion right up to the point she is giving birth. Once again you show your ignorance.
 

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Anytime he wants to volunteer to save the earth by suicide, I'll support his decision.

I oppose suicide. Inconcistent with valuing life. I support the death penalty or war only as last resorts or for the most serious of crimes.
 

PoliticalNick

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It happened, we said no to the abortion, we had to find a new specialist as the original doctor refused to treat my wife. Our 7th was born 4 weeks early, 8lbs 4oz, and healthy as an ox. So much for the doctors predictions.

You got lucky. I'm happy for you on that count. I wouldn't put the life of my partner in jeopardy in that way but I won't stop you from endangering your wife.
 

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so you have no problem with the likes of Paul Bernardo, Clifford Olson, or mothers who kill their baby's.
Murder, rape, enslavement, etc, are interfering in the lives of others. I have made it clear that my issue with the abortion issue is that pro lifers and anti abortionists are interfering in the lives of others. So, on those grounds, I equate pro lifers and anti abortionists with murderers, rapists and slavers. I have witnessed the psychological damage done by them. It can be pretty devastating. I also know that having an abortion can be psychologically devastating but that is an issue between the woman and her creator and is none of your business.
 

petros

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Ummmmm, how does the USC pertain to Canada? :roll:
We have our own too.

Murder, rape, enslavement, etc, are interfering in the lives of others. I have made it clear that my issue with the abortion issue is that pro lifers and anti abortionists are interfering in the lives of others. So, on those grounds, I equate pro lifers and anti abortionists with murderers, rapists and slavers. I have witnessed the psychological damage done by them. It can be pretty devastating. I also know that having an abortion can be psychologically devastating but that is an issue between the woman and her creator and is none of your business.
How are we interfering with what women are designed to do which is to make more humans? If making babies wasn't the sole purpose of the female, we'd all be male or no sex at all.

Stopping that natural act is interference Bub.