Who is going to win the B.C. Election?

JLM

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I am no 'fan' of Christy Clark, JLM. Having said that, I do have to give her credit for a remarkable job of bringing her party back from the dead. Hopefully she has learned some lessons in this campaign and will be a better leader for it because, like it or not, she will be the Premier again.

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Maybe not so "dead", Mowich. More like a lot of background noise from special interest groups. Like one group always crying for more money for a job they attend for 40 weeks of the year (including "professional" days). The less gov't. gets into our lives the better. We simply can't afford bureaucrats' wages.
 

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The NDP lost because the polling got it totally wrong. The NDP thought they had the election in the bag and didn't need to do anything. Polls showed them still winning despite Liberal attacks ads and so they just rode it out. They probably might have lost even if polling was accurate, but they would have at least fought for it, which the Liberal did. It just goes to show that you can't just assume victory as if it were a right.
 

JLM

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The NDP lost because the polling got it totally wrong. The NDP thought they had the election in the bag and didn't need to do anything. Polls showed them still winning despite Liberal attacks ads and so they just rode it out. They probably might have lost even if polling was accurate, but they would have at least fought for it, which the Liberal did. It just goes to show that you can't just assume victory as if it were a right.

Right on- not to mention the fact the majority knew if they did win they'd ruin the province.
 

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She neglected her own riding in favor of campaigning in other ridings for her party. I doubt there are any elected Liberals today who would not willingly give up their seat to a leader that took them from predicted defeat to a resounding victory.


Indeed. I imagine a few will volunteer to step down. But until that by-election happens she is still unelected and should hold no office.
 

Mowich

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The NDP lost because the polling got it totally wrong. The NDP thought they had the election in the bag and didn't need to do anything. Polls showed them still winning despite Liberal attacks ads and so they just rode it out. They probably might have lost even if polling was accurate, but they would have at least fought for it, which the Liberal did. It just goes to show that you can't just assume victory as if it were a right.

What's that old saying.......'it ain't over till it's over'?. If a party wants to win an election, they campaign hard right up until the last minute, just as the Libs did. 'Thinking' you have the election in the bag is a far different cry from getting out there and making sure that it is. If the dippers did take the election for granted, they have only themselves to blame.
 

JLM

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What's that old saying.......'it ain't over till it's over'?. If a party wants to win an election, they campaign hard right up until the last minute, just as the Libs did. 'Thinking' you have the election in the bag is a far different cry from getting out there and making sure that it is. If the dippers did take the election for granted, they have only themselves to blame.


Not only that, but anyone who makes such an elementary gaffe is obviously not fit to govern.-:)



Indeed. I imagine a few will volunteer to step down. But until that by-election happens she is still unelected and should hold no office.

Don't get ahead of yourself, we still have to wait for the absentee ballots to be counted, probably won't be for another week or so.
 

Mowich

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Indeed. I imagine a few will volunteer to step down. But until that by-election happens she is still unelected and should hold no office.

Ain't gonna happen. CC is our Premier, like it or not. She will find a seat once all close seats have been recounted, sometime around the end of the month. The legislature will not be recalled until that happens. She is not the first Canadian Premier or Prime Minister to lose their seat and have to run in a by-election.

What happens now that Christy Clark won the election but lost her own riding? - The Globe and Mail

 

JLM

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Ain't gonna happen. CC is our Premier, like it or not. She will find a seat once all close seats have been recounted, sometime around the end of the month. The legislature will not be recalled until that happens. She is not the first Canadian Premier or Prime Minister to lose their seat and have to run in a by-election.

What happens now that Christy Clark won the election but lost her own riding? - The Globe and Mail



I think what has happened Mowich is noise made by the noisy minority drowned out any rational thought and although there were probably sane voices, they weren't heard above the chatter, but still sanity and common sense is a force just like water that can't be suppressed forever. Now that the chickens have come home to roost, there are some who don't like it.


 
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Mowich

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I think what has happened Mowich is noise made by the noisy minority drowned out any rational though and although there were probably sane voices, they weren't heard above the chatter, but still sanity and common sense is a force just like water that can't be suppressed forever. Now that the chickens have come home to roost, there are some who don't like it.

One has to wonder how Dixie got elected leader - maybe it was a matter of time put in over ability - who knows. One thing is for absolutely certain, this guy has the worst media presence of any political candidate that I have seen in awhile. He is so unaware of the camera that he lets this shot get out in public.




Wonder what Tommy Muck thinks of his 'star' candidate now. So much for his prediction that “Dix is going to be really able to show what we are capable of in terms of public administration,” Mulcair told HuffPostCanada at his party’s convention in Montreal.’ or that “We’re going to work together because all the lessons learned here in British Columbia are going to translate into a victory for the first NDP government in 2015.” So how's that working together thing going for you now, Tommy boy. Not so well it seems.

Under the headline: Yo Dix We Didn't Do It

BC Election: Thomas Mulcair Can't Be Happy With Adrian Dix's Collapse
 

JLM

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One has to wonder how Dixie got elected leader - maybe it was a matter of time put in over ability - who knows. One thing is for absolutely certain, this guy has the worst media presence of any political candidate that I have seen in awhile. He is so unaware of the camera that he lets this shot get out in public.





Wonder what Tommy Muck thinks of his 'star' candidate now. So much for his prediction that “Dix is going to be really able to show what we are capable of in terms of public administration,” Mulcair told HuffPostCanada at his party’s convention in Montreal.’ or that “We’re going to work together because all the lessons learned here in British Columbia are going to translate into a victory for the first NDP government in 2015.” So how's that working together thing going for you now, Tommy boy. Not so well it seems.

Under the headline: Yo Dix We Didn't Do It

BC Election: Thomas Mulcair Can't Be Happy With Adrian Dix's Collapse


I'm at a total loss for words, sure makes Christy look good though!
 

petros

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Now will see if Christy has the capability of dealing in the fast paced world of hydrocarbon resources.

This is make it or break it for BC.
 

JLM

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Now will see if Christy has the capability of dealing in the fast paced world of hydrocarbon resources.

This is make it or break it for BC.

She's no dumby Petros. Campbell got rid of her because she was smarter than he was and he knew it!
 

petros

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She just says stupid things? The wealth sitting under the BC Prairies is substantial, BC will have to swallow it's "green" image to pull this off. That won't be an easy sell after the northern gateway pipeline fiasco to push the NG lines as a priority. Now she has to convince everyone that NG lines are safer and greener than the oil lines.

She may have won in BC but now she needs the rest of Western Canada in her corner. Good luck with that one Christy.
 

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I'm at a total loss for words, sure makes Christy look good though!

As I mentioned somewhere else, the Federal NDP party apparently sent their 'best team' of handlers out here to give Dixie a hand in the campaign. Better they had stayed home. They are the ones at fault here. Didn't they ever hear of coaching their candidate on the importance of media awareness? Honestly, JLM watching him twitch and turn and grimace during the few tapes I saw of the debate almost had me itching. Either the poor fellow has a terminal case of shyness which again begs the question - how did he ever become leader - or he doesn't do well under pressure in debates. Either trait would bar him, IMO, from being leadership material most especially as leader of our Province.

Now will see if Christy has the capability of dealing in the fast paced world of hydrocarbon resources.

This is make it or break it for BC.

Indeed we will, petros. But as JLM mentions, Christy is smart and she is cagey. She really does want what is best for the province and she knows where the big money comes from. My beefs with her have to do with her stubborn streak which needs to be tempered as she goes to far at times and oversteps her bounds to the detriment of our province. Hopefully now that she has a mandate from the people, she can relax a bit and take the longer view. All really she has to prove to us is that she can run this province like a well oiled machine.



Not too much to ask of her, eh? ;-)


She's no dumby Petros. Campbell got rid of her because she was smarter than he was and he knew it!

True. And also because, being the bobble-head he was, he thought he could off-lay all the Carbon Tax anger on her. Then because he truly isn't human, he left her with all the HST baggage.
 

petros

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Indeed we will, petros. But as JLM mentions, Christy is smart and she is cagey. She really does want what is best for the province and she knows where the big money comes from. My beefs with her have to do with her stubborn streak which needs to be tempered as she goes to far at times and oversteps her bounds to the detriment of our province. Hopefully now that she has a mandate from the people, she can relax a bit and take the longer view. All really she has to prove to us is that she can run this province like a well oiled machine.


She didn't make any friends in oil and gas, now she's going to have to go in begging and try to earn trust and respect. A little bit of humility never hurt anyone I guess.

3 LNG ports are a go, now comes kissing the oilmen assses
 

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She didn't make any friends in oil and gas, now she's going to have to go in begging and try to earn trust and respect. A little bit of humility never hurt anyone I guess.

3 LNG ports are a go, now comes kissing the oilmen assses

True. That whole stand-off thing with Redford was not CC's best moment. She will have to swallow her pride and start playing nice. I really think it had something to do with the fact that she had been handed the reins without the mandate and was trying to impress us with how tough she can be. Fine as far as it goes, but she also has to remember that the future of our province is in her hands and she best start using her negotiating skills.
 

petros

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She was simply trying to put BC NG first and foremost by slamming the oil pipelines. NG dropped heavily in price and BC nearly lost it's shirt and couldn't afford to pay for it's chunk of the oil pipelines let alone NG lines, gas plants and the LNG ports.

Things are different now and we'll see some serious change and back pedalling.