Who is going to win the B.C. Election?

[JLM]

The Liberals are in with a bigger majority than they had. It seems all the pollsters were wrong. They were all calling for an NDP victory. I think a lot of voters remembered the mess Barrett made the last time we had an NDP government.

I think you mean Glen Clark. (Unless you don't count that as a government) -

 

[petros]

When has BC politics ever not been a mess?

 

[JLM]

When has BC politics ever not been a mess?

When has politics anywhere not been a mess? -

 

[damngrumpy]

Stunning come back it show negative and polarized politics is the answer.
NDP back to the drawing board I guess I think they should play the hand
book of James Carville he knows how to go after the enemy as it were.
The NDP relied on logic and people voting with their heads, that is not the
way elections are won, People vote on emotion and impulse.
It is going to be interesting in this Province for a while to be sure.

 

[JLM]

Stunning come back it show negative and polarized politics is the answer.
NDP back to the drawing board I guess I think they should play the hand
book of James Carville he knows how to go after the enemy as it were.
The NDP relied on logic and people voting with their heads, that is not the
way elections are won, People vote on emotion and impulse.
It is going to be interesting in this Province for a while to be sure.

I think what happened here is what often happens, the noisy minority drowned out reason and logic. Many voters just cast their vote without saying anything. The noisy minority generally focuses on isolated incidents from the past, such as two or three things Gordon Campbell did (drive drunk, the B.C. rail scandal, the H.S.T.) stuff that are no longer issues. Most people want to know what the future plans are and get on with life.

The polls haven't closed yet, juan..............my guess...........a minority gov..........though I haven't a clue who will be in the driver's seat.

So what happens now? 1. Another winner steps down to give Christy a seat? 2. An interim leader and temporary premier is selected until a leadership meeting? 3. A bielection in a riding where the encumbant chooses to step down?

I'm told the NDP have the election sewed up....Do they??? A lot of people remember what they did when they were last elected. Is it long enough ago to get them elected again? Will the Liberals elect another government? I have to admit that I just don't know.
Any thoughts??

I think you had a hunch that hit the nail on the head! -

 

[Walter]

Everyone is surprised, including the pollsters.

Not me; I predicted that someone would win and someone would lose.

 

[JLM]

Not me; I predicted that someone would win and someone would lose.

Me too, great minds think alike!

 

[captain morgan]

So now we can see our medical insurance increase yet again, see the people on disability go another 4 years without a raise. Schools and hospitals will suffer and all for the business class! All I can hope for now is a minority government.

Looks like the Dippers indoctrinated you extremely well.

 

[Mowich]

Yes & No. I think had Mike Farnsworth been the N.D.P. the results would have been a little different. Dix talked about change but I never heard him say what change specifically.

Dix might have had a hope of a chance if he had actually outlined what he was going to do instead of what he was not going to do, JLM. I think a lot of people remembered the dreaded NDP years and swallowed their ire at the Liberals voting against the dippers......not necessarily for the libs. You think? Whatever........good news for our province.

Once again I am more and more convinced that we need to have 2 parties. Our riding has gone Liberal, not because people here love the Liberals but because the vote was split between the Independent and the NDP. Traditionally this riding has been NDP. So now we can see our medical insurance increase yet again, see the people on disability go another 4 years without a raise. Schools and hospitals will suffer and all for the business class! All I can hope for now is a minority government.

Hope crushed..........majority for the Libs and more seats than Campbell had.

NDL - New Democratic Leafs

I can definitely see the correlation, Kreskin. Epic fail by NDP!

 

[Kreskin]

Stunning come back it show negative and polarized politics is the answer.
NDP back to the drawing board I guess I think they should play the hand
book of James Carville he knows how to go after the enemy as it were.
The NDP relied on logic and people voting with their heads, that is not the
way elections are won, People vote on emotion and impulse.
It is going to be interesting in this Province for a while to be sure.

Where Dix went wrong was he hid and kept his mouth shut for the last two years, expecting the Liberal implosion would give him an automatic win. No one knows who he is, and most have rarely seen him or heard him speak. His game plan was equivalent to the prevent defense in football. With very little to go on the electorate can only assume he is the next Glen Clark.

 

[Vancouverite]

That's was Dix' big problem, not saying anything, which made people suspicious.

 

[Mowich]

The Liberals are in with a bigger majority than they had. It seems all the pollsters were wrong. They were all calling for an NDP victory. I think a lot of voters remembered the mess Barrett made the last time we had an NDP government.

I think you are right, juan. Many of us remember the bad days of the Glen Clark gov't and how business left the province. No matter how we felt about the Libs...........the alternative was even worse.

Stunning come back it show negative and polarized politics is the answer.
NDP back to the drawing board I guess I think they should play the hand
book of James Carville he knows how to go after the enemy as it were.
The NDP relied on logic and people voting with their heads, that is not the
way elections are won, People vote on emotion and impulse.
It is going to be interesting in this Province for a while to be sure.

The NDP should have outlined what they were planning to do for the province instead of saying they would tell us after they got in, DG. They told us what they were not going to do ie. support the pipeline, leaving us to wonder just what other nefarious plans they had.........like shutting down mining again.

Now we can get back to the really important stuff..................like wondering who is going to win the Cup! LOL! :lol:

 

[#juan]

I think you mean Glen Clark. (Unless you don't count that as a government) -

Yeah Clark too....Barrett was so bad he felt guilty enough to resign himself without having to be thrown out.

 

[JLM]

Yeah Clark too....Barrett was so bad he felt guilty enough to resign himself without having to be thrown out.

Actually I liked Dave Barrett and thought he was very good at the time. He did one very good thing, brought in the A.L.R., he just wasn't in long enough to fine tune it. I.C.B.C. was a good thing AT THE TIME, but it definitely needed fine tuning as well. He definitely raised the standard of living for the destitute.

 

[WLDB]

I see Christy is behind by a hair again. However it turns out for her personally, I think the party owes her a lot for leading them to a majority gov't.

Perhaps. She shouldnt be premier though, at least not right away. It annoys me that both at the provincial and federal levels people can get the top job without being elected. Until she gets in herself it should go to someone else who actually was elected.

 

[Mowich]

Perhaps. She shouldnt be premier though, at least not right away. It annoys me that both at the provincial and federal levels people can get the top job without being elected. Until she gets in herself it should go to someone else who actually was elected.

She neglected her own riding in favor of campaigning in other ridings for her party. I doubt there are any elected Liberals today who would not willingly give up their seat to a leader that took them from predicted defeat to a resounding victory.

 

[JLM]

Yeah Clark too....Barrett was so bad he felt guilty enough to resign himself without having to be thrown out.

If my memory serves me correctly (it's good but it's short) Barrett hung in until he was voted out in 1975.

She neglected her own riding in favor of campaigning in other ridings for her party. I doubt there are any elected Liberals today who would not willingly give up their seat to a leader that took them from predicted defeat to a resounding victory.

I'm not convinced that Christy is a good leader or Premier material, but she is very clever and I'm sure there is a role in politics, where she would be a valuable asset.

 

[winniethepooh]

Polls were wrong too. This should give the NDP something to think about, if they can't win provincially what are the chances of winning federally.

 

[JLM]

Polls were wrong too. This should give the NDP something to think about, if they can't win provincially what are the chances of winning federally.

And that would probably be a good thing.

What happened to the "401 Club"?

 

[Mowich]

I'm not convinced that Christy is a good leader or Premier material, but she is very clever and I'm sure there is a role in politics, where she would be a valuable asset.

I am no 'fan' of Christy Clark, JLM. Having said that, I do have to give her credit for a remarkable job of bringing her party back from the dead. Hopefully she has learned some lessons in this campaign and will be a better leader for it because, like it or not, she will be the Premier again.

Polls were wrong too. This should give the NDP something to think about, if they can't win provincially what are the chances of winning federally.

I just finished reading an article in MacLeans about how the dippers imported talent from back East to help run their campaign being that said talent did such a good job of running Jackie's last. Trouble is, the East is East and the West is..........well not the East. Voters here have different concerns than those back East and running a campaign on what works for them there, will never work here.