Angst how many people have you got living on this? It needs to be a percentage of one's earnings. That's how it works. And needs must come before wants so you start with basic, shelter, food, electric, heating, transportation. A second car is a luxury not a given so is cable. Public transportation. I did it for years until I could afford a car...I was well into my 20's by then. Cable? Seriously...I didn't have a tv when mine broke, went without. I don't think young people can expect to live a middle class life. That comes after scrimping, and sacrificing and saving. It is not a given. 8O At least not in my mind nor for my generation. We did without until we could afford it. Otherwise, there is debt and it becomes deeper by the month. There goes the relationship.
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Middle class lifestyle? Where? Buckingham palace? My wife can feed about 20 people for $9000 a year. $2000 a year for birthdays, is a necessity? $3000 for phone and I/N? I get Phone, Cable and high speed internet for $2200 a year. Second hand stores are a good option for most things. You're not living in the real world. -
8O how many babies ya got there JML? lol or should we just call you Randy?Middle class lifestyle? Where? Buckingham palace? My wife can feed about 20 people for $9000 a year. $2000 a year for birthdays, is a necessity? $3000 for phone and I/N? I get Phone, Cable and high speed internet for $2200 a year. Second hand stores are a good option for most things. You're not living in the real world. -
lol Actually, $75K sounds about right, according to this Hennessy dude: What is middle class? | Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives
Personally, I think Hennessy's off his nut.
Personally, I think Hennessy's off his nut.
That's what it would cost me to have a full middle class life style with my family where I live.
Obviously I don't live a full middle class life style since I don't make that kind of money, and
My wife only works a small part time job.
With 75k a year. No problems.
I'd not have to budget and cut on things.
9000$ of food a year is only 150$ a week of groceries. That's normal for growing kids and a hard working construction worker. I eat very well with good foods. Your wife must like the cheap stuff.
Don't forget that this is what it cost for someone today to establish himself as middle class.
Once you have been living middle class for over 20 years cost of living drops a whole lot.
I didn't even include taxes payed on income, property & water. So lets add 10 000$ more
Right there on top of all this.
And if you both work then add 9 000$ of child care.
Crazy leprechaun.
Obviously I don't live a full middle class life style since I don't make that kind of money, and
My wife only works a small part time job.
With 75k a year. No problems.
I'd not have to budget and cut on things.
9000$ of food a year is only 150$ a week of groceries. That's normal for growing kids and a hard working construction worker. I eat very well with good foods. Your wife must like the cheap stuff.
Don't forget that this is what it cost for someone today to establish himself as middle class.
Once you have been living middle class for over 20 years cost of living drops a whole lot.
I didn't even include taxes payed on income, property & water. So lets add 10 000$ more
Right there on top of all this.
And if you both work then add 9 000$ of child care.
Crazy leprechaun.
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Middle class lifestyle? Where? Buckingham palace? My wife can feed about 20 people for $9000 a year. $2000 a year for birthdays, is a necessity? $3000 for phone and I/N? I get Phone, Cable and high speed internet for $2200 a year. Second hand stores are a good option for most things. You're not living in the real world. -
you're out to lunch.... as usual.
The Tyee – Monthly Cost to Feed Family of Four: $868
Basically, I agree with you Sal, that is for a person to present an opinion and debate it, but this has gotten a little beyond that, now it's just become a repetition about selfishness and greed. We've all heard that about 10 times now, not to mention the denigration of a certain demographic. There is nothing wrong with suggesting a shift in Gov't spending, but his proposal does not guarantee an improvement in the shift! -
JL, many of the repeats have been a result of the same questions I receive over and over and over again.
Just wondering, how many proposals that you hear from governments do you believe are going to work 100% as indicated? It's a step in the right direction. Any movement to lower the clawback amounts is a step in the right direction.
It may or may not be. But one thing we know sure it is going to cost $millions. Also it is possible you would be taking it away from someone who makes large charitable contributions! -
Who are you talking to, those that wish to maintain the current system or those that wish to change it?
Make up your mind, originally you were all for increasing the clawback amounts!
Obviously those who think the current system isn't fair. It's not rocket science!
It's good to see some positive input Goober, it nicely balances input from the Forum clown and moron! -
That's kinda what I figured however, the OP isn't proposing a redistribution of wealth. The OP takes issue with one of the current methods of redistributing wealth. You are right though, it doesn't work...at least not for the benefit of the nation. It only works for those with their hands out.
Yep- The masked bandit struck again.
Karma Man got a Red- Bad Karma may come your way.
That really is a BS reply.
Karma does spread like a fragrance on the wind.
Or as was translated by a Holy Man on a Mountaintop to me- On occasion it means- Shxt replies have their own scent.
May that wind waft your way.