Talk about small picture.
There is huge value in making sure retirees can afford to fish and golf and vacation.
Health is not something to be taken lightly, and having spending money contributes to health.
Governments spend too much on Seniors
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Talk about small picture.
There is huge value in making sure retirees can afford to fish and golf and vacation.
Health is not something to be taken lightly, and having spending money contributes to health.
When it was first brought in, in the 1930s or 40s everyone including the Prime Minister got it and there was a valid rationale for that. In those days when most people had some pride, it was done that way so no one felt like a charity case. The only place money comes from is the population so it's not like anyone is getting something for nothing. Before criticising "rich" people you might want to consider they took risks to employ other people.
Using this philosophy shouldn't everyone get social assistance then to make sure everyone can afford to fish, golf and go down south for a couple of months every winter?
I see a glimmer of a brain there, Karrie -
I saw that, thought the red was strictly out of character, I should have realized that before I "leapt". Sorry.
The pressure our youth face, let's be honest, comes mainly from them.
I can't justify 25 bucks to go see a movie, but hit a theatre and see how many flock there every weekend.
I've been able to afford one vacation in my marriage (one more than my parents could ever afford in theirs). Most people my age go at least every other year for a foreign vacation.
We can't justify the borrowing cost of 'toys', but we know at least three people our age with 25 year loans on behemoth fifth wheels. MORTGAGES on holiday trailers.
Every senior citizen could drop dead right now, and people would still be overextended, businesses would still be poorly managed, and people would still lose jobs.
roflmfao.... ya....ok...sure....what a moron. I had 7 kids, my youngest is now 18, and I sure as hell couldn't have afforded damn near $700 per month per child.
That's a good one, "when most people had some pride". When exactly did our seniors lose their pride and take money that they didn't need? You and I both know that the OAS was brought in as a vote grab, all senior programs are exactly that.....nothing else.
Seniors are being bought and either are to ignorant to see it or don't care because they get their vacations paid by the brides.
Not sure what your last sentence is making reference to.
Presumably people with jobs also have health plans, and it behooves their employers and WCB to ensure mental and physical wellbeing. There are all sorts of programs with the government, employers, etc. to try to ensure that people have vacation time, vacation pay, access to physical exercise, access to mental health care. So while I don't think they need to be paid to go to mexico, yes, I think we do a fine job of trying to keep our society healthy.
Karrie, you're right a lot of our youth do put a lot of pressure on themselves.
However, I'm a baby boomer and when I was young my first mortgage was about 2 times my annual salary. Today's youth must pay 3 , 4 or 5 times their annual salary for their mortgages and who usually gets the proceeds of the sale of these homes? Our seniors!
Costs today for everything compared to 40 and 50 years ago isn't even close. When you compare the minimum wage today to what it was 50 years ago and then look at the cost of cars, homes, groceries, etc. The cost increase for everything is more than double the increase in minimum wage and salaries. My house has risen by 300% over the past 15 years and minimum wage has gone up maybe 20%.
I commend you at 33 years old for thinking of your parents and other seniors with such respect. It is admirable and your parents should be proud but I'm sure they would also want to you look at the situation with clear vision and see what is fair to everyone involved. We can't expect our youth to deal with all of this massive price increase in everything AND subsidize their parents and grandparents hobbies, their essentials in life YES, their hobbies NO.
For the most part, I would say most seniors could work parttime if they chose to do so. Wouldn't it be great if the government would give us the choice as to whether we wanted to work. Both my parents and in-laws are in their 70's and are still working parttime because they enjoy it. They don't need the money but like to keep active.
Again, I have no problem with giving money to any canadian, seniors included, who need the money. That is NOT the issue. The issue is for most seniors who are able to live a good life, could work if they so choose but don't and collect OAS to use for the hobbies.
Why not? I'm happy for my parents that they had 400 times better life then I ever have..
Good for them. In the end just be happy with what you got and stop comparing.
Life is not fare, let it be.
If the status quo was OK then slavery would be legal and women would still be considered a man's property. Society moves and needs to adjust with the times. It is time for society to recognize that we cannot afford OAS.
No arguement there and that's the problem.
Until the seniors realize the harm they are doing to the country and their children, nothing is going to change because the politicians are going to do nothing for fear of the backlash.
We obviously need more media coverage on this topic such as the story in the opening post.
You will also notice that seniors in general haven't thought about the issue and when pushed their initial reaction is "keep your @#*in hands off my play money". However, the rational ones who are open to putting some thought into the manner do acknowledge that OAS is causing great harm to the country.
The government has programs designed to allow seniors to stay in their homes longer. These programs inflate the value of homes.
What you could do is start a web site to donate your money from OAS to families
that could be nice....I could use your OAS.
Like you just said. Families are not doing as good as baby boomers did at the same
stage in their lives. Not that I'm complaining about my situation or anything.
Yes, just think of what $32 BILLION could do to help the truly needy in this country.
What you don't get is that you are an asset of the corporation of Canada and that you are worth more to that corporation alive than dead. Canada trades its assets on the stock exchange based on population. OAS is a small investment compared to the dividends the corporation receives from trading your life and mine. Even the money spent on elderly immigrants is worth the money spent on supporting them. Same goes for babies and children. Child tax credits are an investment. They increase the over all value of the corporation.
If you want to help the truly needy then I'm not one of them.
I'm just not doing as good as my parents at the same stage.
I suggest you look elsewhere then the government to solve
the problem you see.