Quantum particles and Aether.
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Well, you know what they say: anything not forbidden is compulsory.
Quantum theory is fully consistent with an objective reality that exists with or without observers, there's no dichotomy, that's just New Age nonsense.
I would argue that's a philosophical question, as opposed to a scientific one, unless there is some conceivable method of testing the theory.
My favourite pass time is sillyphosical mental masturbation. Science can't go there by it's very self proclaimed fixation on physical reality.
Cept me. I sit here and enjoy my paradoxical non-existent existence in a universe that, apparently to some wingnuts shouldn't exist, and the ponderings of wingnuts. Want a beer?
Dunno. Never seen a one-legged duck, let alone one that swam. I'd assume it would figure out how to compensate, though.
Dunno. Never seen a one-legged duck, let alone one that swam. I'd assume it would figure out how to compensate, though.
Well, let's have that beer and think about it. :lol:
It doesn't need to be tested, there's no necessary role for an observer in the equations, just as there isn't in Newton's, Maxwell's, or Einstein's equations. Read Victor Stenger on Quantum Quackery.
He must be a very smart man. You agree with him.
All I did was ask some questions that are no sillier than socratus' but it seems to put the science buffs in a tither. This is why I think the scientific mind usually is as narrow as the religious mind - no room for play. Gotta take this stuff seriously, ya know. Not!
Finally a fact ejaculated into the discussion.
Finally a fact ejaculated into the discussion.Science today is terminally materialistic they fear the mind.
Why do we have electric field minds instead of meat calculators?
That is unfair to better scientific minds. Science is in a difficult period of unsettled ethical considerations. What we have is the all too common submission to gold. Science is not to blame the method is sound and sure it just has a human problem.
No, you're quite wrong about that. Socratus beats you all to pieces in the silly questions department, yours are at least readily comprehensible, but you are, like the vast majority of humanity, labouring under some misapprehensions about how we know what's true and what's not. Human perception and cognition are not reliable guides. They will find patterns even where there aren't any, they will imbue those patterns with meaning and significance where there isn't any, and frequently impute agency to them, and then confirmation bias will lead them down the path of noticing only evidence that supports belief in the patterns, meanings, significance, and agency.
Belief precedes analysis, then analysis is used to rationalize the beliefs, and the smarter you are the better you'll be at it, which is why some very bright people believe some very strange things. The only reliable way we've ever found to get out of this infinite loop in the belief engine that drives us all are the methods of science. So when somebody makes an empirical claim about the nature of reality that's scientifically unsupportable, some of us leap to the battlements. Anybody who thinks we create our reality is invited to try the simplest of empirical tests: jump off my roof into the rock garden below and create a reality in which landing doesn't hurt. That idea of observer-created reality comes from a misunderstanding of what's called the measurement problem--not the observer problem--in quantum theory.
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Charles' Law was formulated in1787
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. . . because gas consist on particles i take this law to the particles.
this is my first heretical -idea.
and because Charles' Law belongs to the temperature of absolute zero T=0K
i take this law to the nothingness - vacuum T=0K
it is my second heretical-idea
and because Charles' Law belongs to the theory of ideal gas
i take this theory to the nothingness- vacuum
this is my third heretical - idea
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Charles' Law was formulated in1787
. . . . .
. . . because gas consist on particles i take this law to the particles.
this is my first heretical -idea.
and because Charles' Law belongs to the temperature of absolute zero T=0K
i take this law to the nothingness - vacuum T=0K
it is my second heretical-idea
and because Charles' Law belongs to the theory of ideal gas
i take this theory to the nothingness- vacuum
this is my third heretical - idea
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From modern physics' point of view "the ideal gas" doesn't exist.
But somehow (using small changes) the ideal gas becomes real gas.
( and according to QT a small change makes big difference and maybe
quantum changes turn ideal particles into real molecules)
From modern physics' point of view vacuum with parameter T=0K
doesn't have meaning.
Book : ‘Dreams of a final theory’
by Steven Weinberg. Page 138.
‘ It is true . . . there is such a thing as absolute zero; we cannot
reach temperatures below absolute zero not because we are not
sufficiently clever but because temperatures below absolute zero
simple have no meaning.’
/ Steven Weinberg. The Nobel Prize in Physics 1979 /
But from the other hand, vacuum is most important conception
in physics because somehow ( through small quantum changes –
vacuum fluctuation ), from this 'no meaning vacuum '
the real particles appear.
Physics is full with many abstractions.
But under these abstractions are hidden true ideas.
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But somehow (using small changes) the ideal gas becomes real gas.
( and according to QT a small change makes big difference and maybe
quantum changes turn ideal particles into real molecules)
From modern physics' point of view vacuum with parameter T=0K
doesn't have meaning.
Book : ‘Dreams of a final theory’
by Steven Weinberg. Page 138.
‘ It is true . . . there is such a thing as absolute zero; we cannot
reach temperatures below absolute zero not because we are not
sufficiently clever but because temperatures below absolute zero
simple have no meaning.’
/ Steven Weinberg. The Nobel Prize in Physics 1979 /
But from the other hand, vacuum is most important conception
in physics because somehow ( through small quantum changes –
vacuum fluctuation ), from this 'no meaning vacuum '
the real particles appear.
Physics is full with many abstractions.
But under these abstractions are hidden true ideas.
=..
Temperature is a statistical phenomenon, a gross state variable that is a function of the average translational kinetic energy of the molecules (through the Boltzman Equation). You can infer the temperature of a single atom based on it's kinietic energy, but the concept definitely has limited utility at the quantum scale.
Incidnetally a gather some pshysicists last year did indeed lower the temperature of a partilcle down below absolute zero.
A temperature below absolute zero: Atoms at negative absolute temperature are the hottest systems in the world
Incidnetally a gather some pshysicists last year did indeed lower the temperature of a partilcle down below absolute zero.
A temperature below absolute zero: Atoms at negative absolute temperature are the hottest systems in the world
Conclusion :
according toSRT photon at speed c=1 must be a flat particle.
according tothermodinamics at absolute zero particle doesn't
have volume and must be a flat particle.
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Neither point,nor string particle, but flat – circle particle:
c/d=pi=3,14 can explain the initialconditions of existence
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