Justin Trudeau gets the job done.

Zipperfish

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If he's a drama teacher, what's with all the algebraic equations behind him? At least they are correctly expanded. Who said he was dumb? :lol:
 

Cannuck

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Indeed, the most bone-headed aspect of last week’s failed Tory attack ads was the snide allusion to Trudeau’s having been a “drama teacher” — as if this were some bozo avocation, on par with rodeo clown or door-to-door mop salesman.

The funny thing about Conservative supporters is that they just don't get it.
 

CDNBear

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I don't think he's dumb, he has said some dumb things, and isn't very bright if he think people will forget his double talk and contradictory commentary though.

I will say he's being well marketed too.
 

Durry

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I think he should run for PM of school children,,, small children, that is!! He has a small mind so he would be good for small children.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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The funny thing about Conservative supporters is that they just don't get it.

Many conservatives seem to be of the opinion that teachers are failed professions who are taking a fall-back option.

The art of teaching requires good communication and critical thinking skills, both can easily be applied to politics.
 

Trex

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Many conservatives seem to be of the opinion that teachers are failed professions who are taking a fall-back option.

The art of teaching requires good communication and critical thinking skills, both can easily be applied to politics.
Realty is that an education degree is one of the easiest rides in Uni.
Hard sciences, business, health care, engineering, accounting, vet school, law,and so forth, all far tougher than an education gig.
Harder to get accepted into, and then a tougher curriculum.
Truth is, its tougher to be a librarian than it is to be a teacher.
BTW my wife started out as a high school teacher.

Teachers now can make in excess of $100,000 a year in Canada depending on Province and contract.
And because it's a union gig in the public sector no merit advancement is required.
Retirement can be taken as early as 53 and averages 70% of final income.
Pension is around 70% funded by the taxpayer and around 30% funded by the teachers.
For around 9 months work a year.
And where I live the only person in the school after 3:15PM is the janitor.

Teachers are the new 1%.
They are the new multi-millionaires.
The pension alone insures of that.
In Canada ever year there are less and less young people.
Hence less and less students.
And every year there are more and more teachers.
Making ever inflated salaries.

I have no axe to grind.

I just feel the education system and teacher compensation is wildly out of control.
Unionism at its worst.

Teachers should make about half what they presently get and fund at least 50% of their own pensions.
And they should be working 12 months a year, less 3 weeks vacation.
They could, if nothing else, tutor stuggling students through the summer months and Christmas vacation periods
Its just that simple.
 

CDNBear

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We will all see how unprepared JT is when he has to debate Harper.
No way.

We'll all see the well prepared fruitful endeavors of his writing staff, as he actually evades tough questions on the economy among others, and instead drags the debate towards his new feel good, Canadian group hug policy.

you hurd it here first.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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Realty is that an education degree is one of the easiest rides in Uni.
Hard sciences, business, health care, engineering, accounting, vet school, law,and so forth, all far tougher than an education gig.
Harder to get accepted into, and then a tougher curriculum.
Truth is, its tougher to be a librarian than it is to be a teacher.
BTW my wife started out as a high school teacher.

Teachers now can make in excess of $100,000 a year in Canada depending on Province and contract.
And because it's a union gig in the public sector no merit advancement is required.
Retirement can be taken as early as 53 and averages 70% of final income.
Pension is around 70% funded by the taxpayer and around 30% funded by the teachers.
For around 9 months work a year.
And where I live the only person in the school after 3:15PM is the janitor.

Teachers are the new 1%.
They are the new multi-millionaires.
The pension alone insures of that.
In Canada ever year there are less and less young people.
Hence less and less students.
And every year there are more and more teachers.
Making ever inflated salaries.

I have no axe to grind.

I just feel the education system and teacher compensation is wildly out of control.
Unionism at its worst.

Teachers should make about half what they presently get and fund at least 50% of their own pensions.
And they should be working 12 months a year, less 3 weeks vacation.
They could, if nothing else, tutor stuggling students through the summer months and Christmas vacation periods
Its just that simple.

Is that really the issue?

To be an effective teacher you need to be able to understand your subject, be able to learn new aspects of it and others and be able to effectively communicate it to young people who are rapidly developing intellectually and emotionally.

It's one of the most important disciplines there is in terms of creating a healthy society and some of the best teachers are truly gifted. To try and smear Justin Trudeau based on his vocation is silly.

I get that the business world is seen as the only one that matters to some people, many of them on the right, but our society is much more complex than what many of us do for a living. Having a PM that has a background in communicating effectively new concepts can be a very positive thing.
 

taxslave

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Many conservatives seem to be of the opinion that teachers are failed professions who are taking a fall-back option.

The art of teaching requires good communication and critical thinking skills, both can easily be applied to politics.

Mostly teaching is for those that have no marketable job skills. Drama teacher is a good background for PM since Canadians are so gullible they will take a pretty face over sound economics any day.

Is that really the issue?

To be an effective teacher you need to be able to understand your subject, be able to learn new aspects of it and others and be able to effectively communicate it to young people who are rapidly developing intellectually and emotionally.

It's one of the most important disciplines there is in terms of creating a healthy society and some of the best teachers are truly gifted. To try and smear Justin Trudeau based on his vocation is silly.

I get that the business world is seen as the only one that matters to some people, many of them on the right, but our society is much more complex than what many of us do for a living. Having a PM that has a background in communicating effectively new concepts can be a very positive thing.

Don't forget his zero experience in business. Definite advantage when dealing with touchy feely subjects like foreign policy and economics. Group hugs are just so much better than reality.
 

Zipperfish

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I don't think Trudeau is that vulnerable on the "lack of job experience" front. I don't think Harper ever had a full time job outside of politics at all. He's been a political animal since high school is my understanding. Got a part-time job at his dad's company for a while.

Mulcair seems to have the advantage, as a previously practicing lawyer and professor. Then again, I think he's only worked for governments, academia and unions.
 

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The conservative attack ad only helped Justin.
Here is why.

I know for a fact When he said Quebec was superior to the rest of Canada he was just joking.
Smart people know that words can be put into many different context and have very different
meaning given the situations.

But what Im starting to understand is, the conservatives may have just unknowingly handed
Quebec over to Justin with that attack ad. Quebecers will definitely think he really meant
it and will vote for him.

And the rest of Canada that was already going to vote for him are intelligent
enough to understand that The attack ad was all out of context, and just a hit piece.
I know for a fact he was getting, more support in Ontario and see him Wining it by a close margin.

The only consequence of the ad's will be a re-enforcement of the
hate that people that already would have not voted for him have for him.
 
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