Harper goes even lower

Cobalt_Kid

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Here is what Obama said today at the cathedral !!

"Speaking from the pulpit in the soaring cathedral, the president didn't explicitly declare the deadly marathon explosions an "act of terror" as he did earlier in the week during remarks at the White House. But he showed little restraint in describing those responsible for the attack, calling them "small, stunted individuals."

"Yes, we will find you, and yes, you will face justice," he said, as the crowd – some""

Can you imagine if Trudeau was the PM and was faced with similar circumstances!!
This dumb fk would probably say that we have to feel sorry for these terrorist because they feel alienated and it's really our fault that these terrorists acted out this way!!

What a dumb fk this Trudeau idiot is, just as dumb as his mother!!

When Bush was President the US attacked Iraq as a response to 9/11 when most of the money and personnel for the attack came from Saudi Arabia. What Trudeau was saying- after he'd take care of the immediate emergency response and security issues- is that's it's important to understand what's really going on in a situation like this to effectively deal with it in the long term.

Too much policy and action is being formed based on ideology and faith instead of looking at facts, you know, those things that Harper and his buddy Bush before him seem so afraid of.
 

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When Bush was President the US attacked Iraq as a response to 9/11 when most of the money and personnel for the attack came from Saudi Arabia. What Trudeau was saying- after he'd take care of the immediate emergency response and security issues- is that's it's important to understand what's really going on in a situation like this to effectively deal with it in the long term.

Too much policy and action is being formed based on ideology and faith instead of looking at facts, you know, those things that Harper and his buddy Bush before him seem so afraid of.

Not that I have much to say about the attack on Iraq, but it wasn't a response to 9/11.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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So.

Go tell Justin the motivation is Islam and jihad.

Now, what does he wish to do to address the underlying causes???

So we get that Harper is outraged that another Canadian politician has an opinion that's different from his, it's called democracy.

It's very small of our PM to use the tragedy in Boston as just another opportunity to bash an opposition leader.

Not that I have much to say about the attack on Iraq, but it wasn't a response to 9/11.

At the time about 65% of Americans thought that Saddam had been part of the attack and the Bush Admin did nothing to dissuade them. 9/11 was used as a pretext to do a whole bunch of stuff that otherwise would have been hard for Bush and Cheney.

If Bush had been really serious about going after the people most responsible for 9/11 he would have taken out some fairly high ranked Saudis and Pakistanis.
 

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PM Harper used the Boston tragedy as an opportunity to condemn Trudeau in the press without even being asked about it, it's obvious that his only intent is to discredit another rival for the throne as he's been doing so consistently over the last eight years.

Harper slams Trudeau for comments on Boston bombings - Politics - CBC News

Justin Trudeau makes the strong point that it's important to understand the motivations of actions like the bombing in Boston to effectively neutralize ongoing threats to society, but Harper prefers the reactive approach that maintains a constant state of conflict while doing nothing to resolve underlying issues.

The more I look at the two leaders the more I realize just how poorly served Canada has been since Harper took office and how much we need a change.
"We don't know if it was terrorism, or a single crazy, or a domestic issue or a foreign issue — all those questions. But there is no question that this happened because of someone who feels completely excluded, someone who feels completely at war with innocence, at war with society." -Turdeau Seems to be a bit of a presumptuous statement. Turdeau's ASSuming a conclusion here without much evidence whatsoever. He hasn't a clue whether the bombers were making a political statement or just pissed off at runners.
Harpy's an A$$. And so is Turdeau.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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I think we can assume that the person(s) who carried out this attack did so motivated by some very deep anti-social feelings, after dealing with the immediate issues, looking for underlying causes makes sense if you'd like to resolve the issue. Which isn't necessarily a priority if your intent is to maintain a permanent state of conflict which some on the right seem to favor.
 
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Cobalt_Kid

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Why worry about root causes when you can just pave it over?

What if what you're paving over is a remote controlled IED.

It makes sense to look at deeper currents in complex social issues if the intent is to formulate effective ways of resolving problems. Which is something that would be antithetical to a politician who believes that everything must flow out of a firmly held ideology or faith. Harper doesn't need to know the facts on this or anything else, he's already got his mind made up about everything and listens to no one, he has no problem ignoring even his own party members and clearly has contempt for science and other facts based disciplines.

In effect he's attacking Justin Trudeau here for wanting to make the kind of information based policies that he finds so inconvenient.
 

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I think we can assume that the person(s) who carried out this attack did so motivated by some very deep anti-social feelings, after dealing with the immediate issues, looking for underlying causes makes sense if you'd like to resolve the issue. Which isn't necessarily a priority if your intent is to maintain a permanent state of conflict which some on the right seem to favor.
You think they were crazy? Really?

Seriously, where does Turdeau feel he is qualified to make comments like that before psychologists, behavioral analysts, etc. do? Is he an expert? The punk was just grandstanding in front of the newsmedia.
Like I said, he's as much of an a$$ as Harpy is.
 

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PM Harper used the Boston tragedy as an opportunity to condemn Trudeau in the press without even being asked about it, it's obvious that his only intent is to discredit another rival for the throne as he's been doing so consistently over the last eight years.

Harper slams Trudeau for comments on Boston bombings - Politics - CBC News

Justin Trudeau makes the strong point that it's important to understand the motivations of actions like the bombing in Boston to effectively neutralize ongoing threats to society, but Harper prefers the reactive approach that maintains a constant state of conflict while doing nothing to resolve underlying issues.

The more I look at the two leaders the more I realize just how poorly served Canada has been since Harper took office and how much we need a change.

this is a difference of opinion between 2 politicians, to title it the way you did was absolutely uncalled for.