The state imposes its will on taxpayers and non-taxpayers. If non-taxpayers were denied a say in government, they'd be justified in not obeying the law.
They get benefits whenever they use sidewalks and roads.
But hey, if they want to fill our jails, well and good. Sure beats what Harper wants to do and fill them with the children of taxpayers who just want to smoke a joint.
Nothing like killing a few Mexicans to protect B C's and California's cash crop.
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I meant wiich tax is the OP discussing? My 16 year old pays sales tax; should he be allowed to vote?
Yes he should be. VAT's are regressive taxes but if no taxation without representation and conversely no representation without taxation hold to logic, and it does, then he is paying for it.
If we are going to pass on our national debt to their shoulders we should let them vote on how big a burden their irresponsible parents put on them.
Phocking shame on us all my fellow Canadians.
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I guess all the guys in the pens , because of tax evasion don't have any say in the government , right... or is it the other way around ... or perhaps the tax payers should impose their will on the state ?
If English Canadians ever get French enough we will be like France where the politicians recognize and fear where the true power is, in the people, instead of the grovelling horde that we are.
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I dont think so, but the OP didnt clarify what he means by taxpayer so perhaps he thinks so.
Wellllll. Shribeder sure affected the vote when he bribed Mulbafoony and if that was the tip of the iceberg, and it was, then some might call that voting by proxy.
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Anybody who pays for anything pays taxes, including people not currently old enough to vote, there's no clear place to draw such a line and decree that only taxpayers be allowed to vote. Dumb idea.
Dumb reply while you sit back and let the government tax your kids with a regressive tax to add to the debt we are putting on them.
Nice parent.
My basic view is what the lawof the land in many countries in the past was; no taxation withoutrepresentation. In effect that says that if you do not pay taxes or are ataxtaker you have not earned representation through a vote. IOW, if you do not pay for representation,you do not get it.
The logic is clear.Government is a service and services are never free. The logic is thus sound.
Payment can be made invarious ways so do not think I am going after the poor. In the case of Vets,representation can be earned by serving to protect the country. Those whosometimes pay taxes and at other times take taxes would have to be looked atonce a standard is set. If a person pays 15 years out of 20 for instance, hewould vote. Someone who only paid 5 years out of 20 and was on the dole orpublic purse for 15 may not get a vote.
The point is that when moreand more fall into the poor categories, their vote can and is bought by theunscrupulous politicians who are elected by promises of a raise in welfarechecks.
The rich are getting richerand the poor better off and the middle is squeezed by both side and anyelection basically becomes a war against the middle thanks to the fact thatpoliticians are owned by the rich.
This is unjust andunsustainable and must end.
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DL
Yup. But then I am pretty sure that anyone in Canada is paying taxes of one sort or another. People buy things, they pay taxes. They want a driver's license, they pay a tax. etc. etc.
Only landowners should be voting? I think there's something wrong with that idea. This is the 21st century CE, not the 4th BCE.
Taxpayers seem to have opted for a representative democracy. That means they hire people to represent their wishes. If they don't like how their money is being sopent, they have the right to hire someone who will spend it more according to their wishes.
Welcome to a representative democracy.
Ah, you want a direct democracy. Good luck with that. I've been prodding for a direct democracy for decades.
Taxpayers do vote on things in Canada.
DL
Your reading or comprehension is off on landowners and if you think you live in a democracy and not an oligarchy then I have nothing for you. You are in lala land.
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