Attawapiskat chief goes on hunger strike

Bremusa

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Really Bremusa? This post was that bad you gave me a thumbs down? LOL Too funny.
I did not like the post, it was abrasive to the situation.

Are you gonna whine every time I don't like one of your posts.

Or is this some sort of let the world know agenda who gave you a thumbs down, heaven forbid.

Cry baby.

Bremusa
 

Mowich

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You beat me to my edit.


Bremusa



Again, you beat me to my edit.

Sorry for being reactionary .

As I brace for the gushing from most of the posters in here, a bit of honesty on my part.

Time and time again I get let down by politicians.

Yes I bought into this Spence fraud.

How many of you would still cast a vote for Harper, knowing his party has done more lying than Spence could ever do.

The entire party of the conservatives are a lie going to happen.

The die hards will support these people and never change.
Harper will come up with some idiocy which he will repeat over and over and over and Canadians will evetnually believe it and vote for him.

The Liberals, a joke gone bad.

The NDP the last hope and gasp for the left, only to be let down for the left is split.

At least I realize my folly.


Bremusa

FYI. This is a short list of what Mr Harper has done for the native community.

Mr. Harper, they point out, was the first prime minister to stand up in the House of Commons and apologize for the Residential Schools system. He was the first to endorse the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples. He was the first to extend the Canadian Human Rights Act to aboriginals living on reserves. He was the first to appoint an Innu Cabinet minister and the first to have two aboriginal ministers in Cabinet at the same time. Sporting yellow face-paint and a feathered headdress, he was the first sitting prime minister to be named an honourary chief.


John Nivison - The National Post


Perhaps I'm over simplifying things by saying the problem at Attawapiskat was caused by someone spending a pisspot full of money over several years without getting or keeping receipts! Isn't that lesson one in Business 1?

Sorry to say it is just as simple as that, JLM. Lots of money with no trace of where or how it was spent - poof, gone like the wind.
 

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When the Idle No More movement began to attract media attention I believed the oft reported tale that the movement was a spontanious result
of some general ideas put forward by a group of female aboriginal students.
Suuuuure it was.
Palmela Palmater, a founding member and driving force of "Idle No More" has a PhD from Dalhousie (courtesy of Canadian taxpayers), she holds the chair for Indegenous Governance at Ryerson (the department once again funded by whitey taxpayers), is a practing lawyer (more taxpayer funded education) and is a well known aboriginal politician.
She just happened to come in second place in the Grand Chief election.
Shaun Atleo won that election and rumour on the street has it Palmela hates Shaun for beating her out for the top job.
Idle No More looks very much like a serious attempt to completely end run the legitimate governance of Grand Chief Shaun Atleo by opening a second front against whitey and then making the Grand Chiefs look both reduntant and irrelevent.
Its pure politics and its all about power and money.
The co-opted Rabble Babble moonbats and the greeny tree huggers are nothing but catspaws in a high stakes internal political game within First Nations.
And Spence?
Lets not even talk about her anymore.
At 3 pm today I made the above post.
At 8:56 pm ET Andrew Coyne published a story in the National Post here:
Idle No More: A dispute between rival factions in aboriginal community | Full Comment | National Post
To me it looks like he at best lifted my ideas and at worst plagiarized me.
Read my post and then Coynes subsequent article and decide for yourself.
At the very least it looks like the idea was originally presented here on Canadian Forums and the followed up on by the national media.
Trex
 

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At 3 pm today I made the above post.
At 8:56 pm ET Andrew Coyne published a story in the National Post here:
Idle No More: A dispute between rival factions in aboriginal community | Full Comment | National Post
To me it looks like he at best lifted my ideas and at worst plagiarized me.
Read my post and then Coynes subsequent article and decide for yourself.
At the very least it looks like the idea was originally presented here on Canadian Forums and the followed up on by the national media.
Trex

Sorry, you're not as important as you think. 2 completely different articles.
 

Mowich

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At 3 pm today I made the above post.
At 8:56 pm ET Andrew Coyne published a story in the National Post here:
Idle No More: A dispute between rival factions in aboriginal community | Full Comment | National Post
To me it looks like he at best lifted my ideas and at worst plagiarized me.
Read my post and then Coynes subsequent article and decide for yourself.
At the very least it looks like the idea was originally presented here on Canadian Forums and the followed up on by the national media.
Trex

Have you heard the one about two monkeys, continents apart, sitting in front of a typewriter? ;-)
 

Trex

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Well I suggest the thrust of my post was this quote Trex: "Shaun Atleo won that election and rumour on the street has it Palmela hates Shaun for beating her out for the top job.
Idle No More looks very much like a serious attempt to completely end run the legitimate governance of Grand Chief Shaun Atleo by opening a second front against whitey and then making the Grand Chiefs look both reduntant and irrelevent".

And I would also suggest the thrust of Coynes subsequent artice was this quote Coyne:"Having been defeated last summer in her bid to unseat Atleo as AFN chief, Palmater evidently sees Idle No More as a chance for a do-over..."

But I guess there is no comparison or smilarities between the two and given enough monkeys and enough typewriters.
If group think decides its coincidence the coincidence it is.
 

Mowich

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More on the audit.

Ezra digs deeper into the audit in this one.

Audit nightmare: The RCMP, not Harper, should be meeting with Chief Spence | Columnists | Opinion | Toronto Sun

I laughed at Ivison`s opening remarks in this one.

"Theresa Spence isn’t talking. The Attawapiskat First Nation chief is fasting and she can’t talk when she’s fasting, according to her spokesman Danny Metatawabin. Why not, I wondered? It’s not as if her mouth is full."

Idle No More: Whatever Theresa Spence gets, it will never be enough | Full Comment | National Post

Then there`s Kathryn Blaze Carlson`s take on things.

Idle No More’s vague demands butting up against PM’s pragmatism | Canadian Politics | Canada | News | National Post
 

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It does not matter which side of this thing one is on its nothing short of a disgrace period.
the money paid out by government without knowing what was happening is a misuse of
taxpayer funds. The CHC paid for housing on the reserve yet they see pictures of shacks
and people living in squalor and they don't ask any questions they appear to have just
sent more money, meaning business as usual. The government looks bad here or should
I say successive governments.

Now the other side of the coin, in a relatively short space of time governments forked over
somewhere around one hundred million dollars,that is a hell of a lot of money especially if
there is little or nothing to show for it. Where did the money go? It could well be fraud or
just complete mismanagement. There should have been enough money to pay for all the
reserve housing required. For a hundred million there should have been enough money
to start businesses period. If the money didn't solve the problems where did the money go?
 

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It does not matter which side of this thing one is on its nothing short of a disgrace period.
the money paid out by government without knowing what was happening is a misuse of
taxpayer funds. The CHC paid for housing on the reserve yet they see pictures of shacks
and people living in squalor and they don't ask any questions they appear to have just
sent more money, meaning business as usual. The government looks bad here or should
I say successive governments.

Now the other side of the coin, in a relatively short space of time governments forked over
somewhere around one hundred million dollars,that is a hell of a lot of money especially if
there is little or nothing to show for it. Where did the money go? It could well be fraud or
just complete mismanagement. There should have been enough money to pay for all the
reserve housing required. For a hundred million there should have been enough money
to start businesses period. If the money didn't solve the problems where did the money go?

I think there has to be full accountability before this project goes any further. Months ago I never thought I'd find myself saying this but in a community of this size someone (probably a lot of people) know something.
 

Bremusa

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Really Bremusa? This post about that other post that you gave me a thumbs down in was worthy of yet another thumbs down. ROFLMAO
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Are you for real?

What are your fans going to think.

You read your own books and pee your pants in fear.
lol

Grow some Kahunas.


Bremusa
 

Dexter Sinister

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What disturbs me is that I'm a pretty bright guy and I can't make sense of this stuff. What's going on at Attawapiskat? I don't know, I've seen too many conflicting reports. What does Chief Spence want? I don't know, I've seen too many conflicting reports. What is Idle No More up to? I don't know, I've seen too many conflicting reports, though it does seem clear to me that blocking bridges and highways is a stupid tactic, all it'll do is annoy the people whose support and empathy you need. I think a hunger strike is a stupid tactic too, "I'll kill myself if you don't give me what I want." Well, what are you, 5 years old? If you die you won't get it anyway, maybe you should try something else.
 

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The last couple of days out here, when I hear about Chief Spence & her thing on
the radio, it's no longer refered to as a 'hunger strike,' but a 'non-solid food diet
protest' or a 'liquid diet protest.'


........Heard it referred to a "sort of" hunger strike. Pretty goddam funny if she didn't hurt so many people just by association. Not to mention taxpayers, just because, well, we have to pay.. .

Hand in the cookie jar is hand in the cookie jar.

Our hearts should be bleeding for Canada and what we could have done. The old "peace, order, and GOOD GOVERNANCE", thing.
 

Dexter Sinister

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What's not generally recognized is that Canada IS a colonial power in the style of Victorian Britain, it's just that all our colonialism happened within our own borders so except for a few academics almost nobody understands that, and the circumstances of our aboriginal people are a consequence.
 

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This was on the CBC website, also known as the Conservative Butt-kissing Corporation.

lol wut?

If anything, they swing left and tend to favour the Liberals/NDP.


Spence spokesman suggests audit is wrong

Spence's spokesman, Danny Metatawabin, suggested that the audit was "absolutely," wrong but wouldn't comment further on its contents.

He also agreed with a suggestion that the audit was released to discredit Spence.

"The government's doing that," he said. "They're trying to undermine the process, the movement of the people."

"You have to understand what we're doing here. It's for all First Nations communities under the treaty, the nation to nation relationship," he said. "We should be undermining the prime minister. We should be undermining the Department of Indian Affairs for creating that injustice."

Attawapiskat chief slams audit leak as 'distraction' - Politics - CBC News