What would be your feelings if a neo-nazi group adopted the fleur de lis as their symbol?
Stupid Separatist B---tch
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What would be your feelings if a neo-nazi group adopted the fleur de lis as their symbol?
One of the problems might be that it is counter productive for people to have a poppy
that they can wear again the next year. They want you to buy a new one next year.
I'd be concerned obviously. But I think the symbol (fleur de lys) is well established enough that its new ''nazi'' interpretation couldn't threaten our traditional Quebecois use of it. I mean, it's on our flag. Basically, I'm sure Quebecers would quickly find a way to clearly resolve any ambiguity.
A lot of French people (from France) find it strange that we use the fleur de lys as a national symbol because to the French (from France) the fleur de lys is reminiscent of France's monarchical past. In other words, it's a symbol they associate with monarchy.
For us Quebecers the fleur de lys has nothing to with monarchy but simply with our national identity. A bit like a star for a US american or the maple leaf for Canadians.
All this shows how the use of symbols is a slippery affair. There's nothing objective about it all and we're all stuck in our individual and collective mindsets but we need to understand that a symbol is fluid concept.
After all the swastika existed before Nazis did.
Swastika - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That being said, what is wrong with a white poppy?
We've had our present poppy's since they arrived at the local legion. On November 11th, we will do as we have done for years. Take the poppy's, replace the pin with the original, pin it to the note of thanks from my family that is attached to the small wreath we place at the local cenotaph.
Next year we'll all get another, and make another donation.
No it is about some group with their own agenda trying to piggy back it on Remembrance day.
Are you referring to pacifists? What is wrong about being a pacifist and remembering those who died in combat?
Exactly. I don't think there is a way to make the poppy any cheaper.
It is the sentiment and the donation that counts. For years my whole
family used to watch the Remembrance Day celebrations in Ottawa.
I remember when the ww1 vets numbered in the hundreds and ww2
vets were there in the thousands. Sadly, there are no ww1 vets left
and I don't know if there will be any ww2 vets left this year.
Except the poppy isn't a Canadian symbol, but rather one shared by the entire Commonwealth and some other countries beside. Its not nationalistic, until someone like Marois makes it so.
If Jason Kenney or others are putting a maple leaf or anything else in it, they are equally as wrong. I don't have an issue with something neutral but anything else is directly at odds with what the poppy campaign is about.