Richard Mourdock's rape comments: A Defense
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I believe in God and God gave us free will- You point does not equate to many Christians beliefs. That She/He controls every action we make.
Nope - She does not have a problem- You do- you personal opinion on what a Christian believes is false to say the least
Your own opinion is driving your bias against Religion. They are all the same- Well they are not.
And then that face comes knocking on your door when it hits 18, saying they're your child.... bringing it all back again.
If it's god's plan for a woman to get raped, then it must also be God's plan for the child to be aborted.... since we're speaking in generalizations and absolutes.
If everything is within God's plan, than no matter what we do or don't do is his plan, thus nothing is wrong.
That's why this kind of Argument of "God's Plan" is flawed and always will be.
God is the creator of all evil ~ Isaiah 45:7. I guess that's why he created so many Republicans. 
Well, strictly speaking, that would be Jewish, not Christian, law. And I'm not sure if ability to understand his actions counts for something.
Wrong, again, as usual.
Don't know why you got a thumbs down for that, because based in the Roman Catholic teachings of Christianity, it's true and we are all born into Sin... in fact, I'm pretty sure that covers all Christian Sects, as that sin we're all born into comes all the way from Adam and Eve, which is one of the primary foundations of Christianity as we know it.
Adam and Eve - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"The story of Adam and Eve forms the basis for the Christian doctrine of original sin: "Sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all men sinned," said Paul of Tarsus in his Epistle to the Romans, although Chapter 3 of Genesis does not use the word "sin" and Genesis 3:24 makes clear that the couple are expelled "lest he put forth his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever". St Augustine of Hippo (354–430), working with a Latin translation of the epistle, understood Paul to have said that Adam's sin was hereditary: "Death passed upon (i.e. spread to) all men because of Adam, [in whom] all sinned". Original sin, the concept that man is born in a condition of sinfulness and must await redemption, thus became a cornerstone of Western Christian theological tradition..."
Guess some don't like the truth of their own religion and their religious hypocrisy regarding abortion and "protecting the innocent."
As a Tangent:
"Sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all men sinned"
If that's the case, all animals also die, so did they all sin too?
I thought it was just the snake... silly stuff.
"Sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all men sinned"
If that's the case, all animals also die, so did they all sin too?
I thought it was just the snake... silly stuff.
Oh ya..... and the difference between me, Karrie, IBM and praxius,tp, dexter is that me, Karrie, IBM believe in Christ being our Savior, where as you other ding dongs don't even believe. Yet, here you are telling US what is what. That really is hilarious.
We were a bunch of sinful, corrupt orgy-infested evil doers and he was going to try and save us, which we ended up just killing the goof..... funny how he had to tell daddy to not smite us all for we didn't know what we were doing, as you'd think he would have already known that.
Actually the difference is I used to believe.... then I started to actually think for myself, so I know just as much about what I'm talking about as you think you do.... maybe more
Simplistic thinking on your part will always give you the wrong answer.
Actually the difference is I used to believe.... then I started to actually think for myself, so I know just as much about what I'm talking about as you think you do.... maybe more
No, not a matter of "thinking for yourself", more a matter of not understanding and taking the easy way out.
So over complicating numerously-interpreted stories made by 5 guys who apparently lived for over a hundred years in a time when general health was dismal and mortality rates were low... and taking various words and phrases meaning something completely different from what they state is the way to go huh?
So trying to find the right path to take by following contradictory rules and teachings is the way to go huh?
Keep in mind... sometimes the "Easy Way Out" is the right way out.
I noticed you didn't bother to refute my above quote/reference towards how everybody is born into sin and that Adam and Eve's sins are passed down from human to human...... nor have you bothered to counter the whole thing about "God's Plan"
You're right it does follow logically.
The problem is that rape, pregnancy and the questions surrounding abortion have nothing to do with logic in how we deal with them. They are strictly emotional issues.
Politics is just taking an emotional issue and trying to make it seem logical. More often than not, it doesn't work, which is why most politics reads as bull****.
The infant is blameless. The guy put it VERY badly, the the fact is that the infant is blameless.
First of all God did not create bad or good. He gave us all free will to choose the road we were to take for ourselves.
If we didn't have men who rape women there would be no problem. It is the fault of the men who do the raping, and I specify it is a minority of men. Look at history one of the weapons is raping women and girls which is still going on today.
Has anyone asked who many women get raped in the US and Canada each year? It would be interesting if we could get the numbers.
I object to any man tell me what to do or any woman who has not lived through rape or incest telling any woman what to do with their own body, as well as any religious zealot.
If we didn't have men who rape women there would be no problem. It is the fault of the men who do the raping, and I specify it is a minority of men. Look at history one of the weapons is raping women and girls which is still going on today.
Has anyone asked who many women get raped in the US and Canada each year? It would be interesting if we could get the numbers.
I object to any man tell me what to do or any woman who has not lived through rape or incest telling any woman what to do with their own body, as well as any religious zealot.
There's not much point in arguing this kind of intricate theology with people. As so many have pointed out, everyone has their own definition of God, carefully crafted to suit their own biases and values. Sometimes it seems that there are as many definitions of God as there are people. My argument would be that these definitions are internally illogical and often contradictory. Cognitive dissonance is simultaneously holding two contradicting beliefs. The idea of God's plan and omnipotence runs counter to free will, but never mind that. My point is that saying rape is a part of God's plan is not far removed from the average theist's worldview. It follows from many people's interpretation of God.
I'm not bothered really.
I'm not bothered really.
