Romney trounced in debate

captain morgan

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Where are all those that stated Romney would hand Obama his head.
Obama nailed Romney on the issues I mentioned- and more.
And Romney was stressed - Guess he thought it would be a cake walk.
Any doubts that Obama can go head to head with Romney. Please let me know.

CM as to the diplomats - A President has to campaign- He can and did address the issue.

If a President hunkered down every time Americans are killed he would never leave the WH.

Hey Goober... Obama, like Biden was on his heels almost the entire time... His primary strategy in this debate was to challenge Romney's position on everything in an attempt to discredit his policies.

That strategy might have worked had it come from an incumbent that produced any form of positive tangible results, but seeing how Obama's present term has been anything but a success, he is in no position to question anyone else's ideas. Fact is, Obama can not point to any real accomplishments that he has engaged during his tenure and that goes a long way in explaining why his only strategy was to attack Romney.

Lastly, did you catch the comment Obama made when he used the word 'surplus' when talking economic policy?.. It was a quick comment, but the only reference that I can apply to using 'surplus' would be relative to the surplus debt that has accrued under his admin... 6 trillion worth and counting.

Hope and Change Goober... Hopefully that is exactly what the American electorate will pursue come election day
 

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Hey Goober... Obama, like Biden was on his heels almost the entire time... His primary strategy in this debate was to challenge Romney's position on everything in an attempt to discredit his policies.

That strategy might have worked had it come from an incumbent that produced any form of positive tangible results, but seeing how Obama's present term has been anything but a success, he is in no position to question anyone else's ideas. Fact is, Obama can not point to any real accomplishments that he has engaged during his tenure and that goes a long way in explaining why his only strategy was to attack Romney.

Lastly, did you catch the comment Obama made when he used the word 'surplus' when talking economic policy?.. It was a quick comment, but the only reference that I can apply to using 'surplus' would be relative to the surplus debt that has accrued under his admin... 6 trillion worth and counting.

Hope and Change Goober... Hopefully that is exactly what the American electorate will pursue come election day

Actually he did, got G.M. and Chrysler back on their feet, terminated Osama Bin Laden, got a healthcare plan underway, got the troops out of Iraq. Need I go on? :smile:
 

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I might trust Jon Stewart as the last moderator.

I think that the original referee for the UFC fights would be best



Actually he did, got G.M. and Chrysler back on their feet, terminated Osama Bin Laden, got a healthcare plan underway, got the troops out of Iraq. Need I go on?

Yes...

Any answers for Gitmo still being open
, record unemployment
, housing crisis
and record foreclosures
?..

How about that debt crisis, eh? 6 trillion and counting.. Any answers to that?:smile:

...... Yeah - I thought not
 

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I think that the original referee for the UFC fights would be best





Yes...

Any answers for Gitmo still being open
, record unemployment
, housing crisis
and record foreclosures
?..

How about that debt crisis, eh? 6 trillion and counting.. Any answers to that?:smile:

...... Yeah - I thought not

I've said it before (about 15 times) Politicians have very little effect on the economy (it's not their job). Their job is to enact legislation and be a "watch dog". Maybe Gitmo isn't shut down but I just heard on the news the other day there is no one from the western world remaining there. He still has four years to shut it down completely. I believe his promises were made for an 8 year time table. (Much to your chagrin) :lol:
 

captain morgan

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I've said it before (about 15 times) Politicians have very little effect on the economy (it's not their job).

Except when it comes to things like trade agreements, pipelines, taxes or the NEP, right?

Sorry JLM, but your belief that politicians have nothing to do with the economy is very mistaken... Just ask the American people about the 6 trillion that they have to pay back.


Maybe Gitmo isn't shut down but I just heard on the news the other day there is no one from the western world remaining there.

.. So, what you're saying is that it is still open then?

He still has four years to shut it down completely. I believe his promises were made for an 8 year time table. (Much to your chagrin) :lol:

That's not what he promised when he first ran for office...

Opps
 

JLM

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Except when it comes to things like trade agreements, pipelines, taxes or the NEP, right?

Sorry JLM, but your belief that politicians have nothing to do with the economy is very mistaken... Just ask the American people about the 6 trillion that they have to pay back.

No doubt about it, $6 Trillion sounds very formidable. It's $2000 per American. I'd bet the average American's home has increased in value by more than $2000 in the past 4 years. Perhaps the assets of the country have increased by $6 trillion in the past 4 years. Was the entire $6 Trillion spent unrecoverable or was some of it put into assets. How much of it was spent on infrastructure (with the side benefit of creating employment)? The biggest problem is people fall for one liner statements politicians make. Maybe Obama is just as guilty as Romney on that score! The sad part is most of the value of these debates lies with people who act on a whim without thinking.
 

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The rationalization of Obamatons is amazing at times......

Even in Canada....

Really?? When Romney won the first debate the "whole wide world" acknowledged it. Would you expect different for Obama? In my mind by far the more credible!
 

captain morgan

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No doubt about it, $6 Trillion sounds very formidable.

It is

It's $2000 per American.

$20,000... But considering that 50%+ of Americans don't pay Federal income taxes, it sure makes for one helluva debt for the minority that do pay taxes


I'd bet the average American's home has increased in value by more than $2000 in the past 4 years. Perhaps the assets of the country have increased by $6 trillion in the past 4 years.

That would be interesting indeed... I wonder if the avg American home has increased by $20,000 in value over the last 4 years?

Was the entire $6 Trillion spent unrecoverable or was some of it put into assets.

You would be wise to look into it

The rationalization of Obamatons is amazing at times......

Even in Canada....


Amazing doesn't quite describe it..... More like it defies all logic
 

JLM

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$20,000... But considering that 50%+ of Americans don't pay Federal income taxes, it sure makes for one helluva debt for the minority that do pay taxes

Yep, I was just going to correct it but you beat me to it! :smile:

That would be interesting indeed... I wonder if the avg American home has increased by $20,000 in value over the last 4 years?

Probably not but wouldn't that have more to do with Freddie boy and Fanny girl than with Obama?
 

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$20,000... But considering that 50%+ of Americans don't pay Federal income taxes, it sure makes for one helluva debt for the minority that do pay taxes




That would be interesting indeed... I wonder if the avg American home has increased by $20,000 in value over the last 4 years?



You would be wise to look into it

Yep, I was just going to correct it but you beat me to it! :smile:

Or wishful thinking?

Probably not but wouldn't that have more to do with Freddie boy and Fanny girl than with Obama?
OK, now I get it....If there had been an increase Obama gets the credit......a decrease Fanny and Freddy get the blame....or maybe not....... I seem to recall previously that it was Bush's fault....
I just wish some people would get their ducks straight in defending Obama:-(
 

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Back on the old topic here. Obama certainly won this debate. The worst for Romney and the
best for Obama was when the debate swung to the events in Benghazi. Romney jumped in with
what was obviously incorrect information and the moderator had to correct him. All in all Obama
better prepared than Romney. The results from the public shown during the debate had Obama
ahead all the way.
 

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I don't think Romney was trounced.. but at least Obama gave as good as he got in this one.

Actually Romney was the only one who mentioned tarriffs with the respect to China.. the only possible solution to the de-industrialization of America.. but nullified that by calling for more Free Trade agreements with Latin America.. which indicates this was just a nod to manufacturing workers without any type of real comprehension of the nature or depth of the calamity the FT has inflicted on the U.S. and Western world. To him China is just a minor disequilibrium in the proven Free Trade equation, rather than a systemic and inevitable result of the policy.

He was also the only one who mentioned currency manipulation by China.. a direct outcome the de-nationalization and commodification of currency through Monetarism.. but again seemed to have no understanding of the threat and diminution of sovereignty and vitality this imposes on a country.

Obama didn't really provide anything constructive... still calling for the 'high tech' jobs and export markets.. the same clap trap put out by the Free Trade lobby for the last 30 years that has never produced anything but economic decline.

Both these guys are incompetent.. puppets of one branch or another the Global Investment Organism.. both are proffering the same policies with only the most superficial of distinctions.

The last U.S. President of either party who had a clue about how economies really worked was Lyndon Johnson.. who championed an integrated industrial economy, national sovereignty and an equitable sharing of wealth.

The truth is that it makes almost no difference whether Obama or Romney is elected.. the economic slide will continue. They are both mediocrities.. bought and payed for by the Global Oligarchs.
 
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Kreskin

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Romney and tariffs on China? Get serious, corporations profit from slave labor. That's why they export jobs, to make more money. They won't be stopping that gravy train any time.