Wow! Cops Now Ticketing Drivers Who Leave Windows Open!

tay

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Why is the cop driving around the school parking lot in the first place?
 

The Old Medic

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Talk about "Nanny State" legislation, this clause certainly fits the definition.

Next, they will legislate whether or not you can leave anything IN your vehicle.

Personally, I always lock my vehicles, but I do not believe that the government has any right to compel me to do so.
 

Ron in Regina

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At this point, with vehicle immobilizers mandated by law (& the insurance
industry) in all new vehicles for a number of years now, this law is dated
and it's time of passing is close.

I see it much like the speed-trap set up near the end of my alley most
Sunday mornings when the weather is nice (For those local to me, it's
on Arcola where they hide behind the Greenhouse). Part of that avenue
is a 60km/h zone, that drops to a 50km/h zone right before a curve, and
the police are set up around the curve and out of sight.

The rest of that avenue, including the area where the police have their
speed-trap, is suppose to increase to 60km/h but hasn't happened yet,
so it's a temporarily lucrative fishing hole. When the weather isn't nice,
there is no speed-trap there as there must be crime happening elsewhere
that is weather dependent. The time for this fishing hole is passing, but
it's a nice lucrative place to set up when the weather is nice until the
zoning comes into place making it extinct.
 

Cannuck

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Seems reasonable to me

LOL...I'm sure it does.

I do find it interesting that bothered to post the law that states the vehicle must be parked in such a way to prevent its unauthorized use. Doesn't taking the key out of the ignition meet that standard?

So, are you saying you should get a ticket for having this vehicle?

You should contact the Nanaimo RCMP so they can let the officer in the story know that. He obviously has lots of time on his hands. Think of all the ticket revenue he could generate, especially, (as Kakato says) when you add motorcycles into the plan.

So what would have happened if the window was down partway to give a pet inside some fresh air? Would they have been ticketed as well? The reason I ask is that they suggest that windows be left partially open in hot weather to help the pets out(of course, I would hope that they wouldn't be left in the car very long regardless, but I still have to ask the question).


Clearly the officer did not understand the law and that is why the ticket was changed to a warning. I suspect the officer was given a talking to and politely told not to embarrass the force with such silliness again. Lets just be thankful the lady in the story didn't take her silly string to school that day.
 

Chev

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... if the above is the justification for ticketing people who leave their car windows open then the part about it being illegal to leave your windows open definitely is top secret. seems only the cops know about it because it's not in the legislation ...
leaving car windows open is not exactly 'secure', as in 191(2). But then, "previously owned a convertible and can remember leaving
her rag top parked in public places with the roof down with no repercussions" is not exactly secure either. And that probably happens just as often.


Not that big of a joke, Wiz, when you leave your car window open and your car or the possessions within get swiped and you report it to the cops, how much money do you think the taxpayer gets hit with before the file is closed?
I would expect the 'victim' to be laughed at and told "too bad, so sad". (+ you're an idiot) I would hope there would be no money involved.

You said... "this story is another sign that harper's police force is on the way out ..."
What has this story got to do with 'Harper's police force?
 

PoliticalNick

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I'm not sure how this could be applied in a fair manner anyway. My pick-up has built in theft deterrent and immobilizer. I can leave the windows open and any entry sets off the alarm. Also if it is started without the key it will only run for 30 seconds and unlike the alarm this is in the main computer and cannot be bypassed or turned off. I often leave all 4 windows down completely when it is hot but given the safety devices am I not leaving it secure from unauthorized use.

Now here is another thing. I drive a tractor-trailer around western Canada. I make all kinds of rest stops including meal breaks where I park my unit and leave it running especially in extreme temperatures to run the heater/AC. So does every other driver out there. I have parked my truck in the winter with it running and gone into a hotel to sleep. It is quite common to see such things around truck stops and any small town in the patch, heck anywhere it is really fricken cold. So why has no ticket ever been issued to myself or any other professional driver I know for not securing the vehicle?
 

DaSleeper

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I'm not sure how this could be applied in a fair manner anyway. My pick-up has built in theft deterrent and immobilizer. I can leave the windows open and any entry sets off the alarm. Also if it is started without the key it will only run for 30 seconds and unlike the alarm this is in the main computer and cannot be bypassed or turned off. I often leave all 4 windows down completely when it is hot but given the safety devices am I not leaving it secure from unauthorized use.

Now here is another thing. I drive a tractor-trailer around western Canada. I make all kinds of rest stops including meal breaks where I park my unit and leave it running especially in extreme temperatures to run the heater/AC. So does every other driver out there. I have parked my truck in the winter with it running and gone into a hotel to sleep. It is quite common to see such things around truck stops and any small town in the patch, heck anywhere it is really fricken cold. So why has no ticket ever been issued to myself or any other professional driver I know for not securing the vehicle?

Scroll down to section 191 and argue it in any direction you like.....That's in BC....I didn't look up the other provinces

Motor Vehicle Act

Leaving parked vehicle

191 (1) A motor vehicle must be equipped with a lock or other device to prevent the unauthorized use of the motor vehicle.
(2) A driver must not permit a motor vehicle to stand unattended or parked unless the driver has
(a) locked it or made it secure in a manner that prevents its unauthorized use, and
(b) if the motor vehicle is standing on a grade, turned the front wheels of the vehicle to the curb or side of the highway.
 

CDNBear

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LOL...I'm sure it does.
It is the law and all.

I do find it interesting that bothered to post the law that states the vehicle must be parked in such a way to prevent its unauthorized use.
Well it is applicable, I'm not surprised that had to be explained to you.

Doesn't taking the key out of the ignition meet that standard?
Depends on the vehicle.

I suspect the officer was given a talking to and politely told not to embarrass the force with such silliness again.
LOL, when in doubt, just make it up as you go along. You've always been good at that.

Scroll down to section 191 and argue it in any direction you like.....That's in BC....I didn't look up the other provinces

Motor Vehicle Act
"(a) locked it " is pretty clear.
 

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In G.M. vehicles in the '50s you could shut the vehicle off and remove the key but unless you put it in the locked position you could still turn the switch and start the vehicle. At the time I thought it was kind of idiotic!
 

CDNBear

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In G.M. vehicles in the '50s you could shut the vehicle off and remove the key but unless you put it in the locked position you could still turn the switch and start the vehicle. At the time I thought it was kind of idiotic!
Most 90's Chrysler's could have the ignition key taken out of the ignition with the engine running.

Consequently, you could start them with a screwdriver if necessary.

Can anyone tell me when the ignition transmission interface became a standard feature on automatic vehicles?

A standard can still be made mobile by taking of the parking brake.

Unauthorized use, doesn't mean just driving a vehicle.
 

Cannuck

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Quote:
Leaving parked vehicle

191 (1) A motor vehicle must be equipped with a lock or other device to prevent the unauthorized use of the motor vehicle.
(2) A driver must not permit a motor vehicle to stand unattended or parked unless the driver has
(a) locked it or made it secure in a manner that prevents its unauthorized use, and
(b) if the motor vehicle is standing on a grade, turned the front wheels of the vehicle to the curb or side of the highway.

http://www.bclaws.ca/EPLibraries/bclaws_new/document/ID/freeside/96318_05

Do you understand what that word means. I'm not trying to be sarcastic (although it is so very easy when I respond to you), I would really like to know.

Depends on the vehicle.

Yes but the article in the OP only states that the car is blue. Has your opinion changed since your first post or do you think that the car being blue makes the ticket "reasonable"
 

DaSleeper

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Good, I'm glad you can agree with me.
You really like arguing with silly people, The wiz, Jim-bo etc...
 

Cannuck

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Good, I'm glad you can agree with me.

Actually, it seems it is you that agrees with me since I didn`t feel the officers actions were reasonable given that all I knew about the car was that it was blue. What changed your mind