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JLM

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Actually BK's thing is, "have it your way", but they all usually give the customer what they want.

... or at least no more so than tomatoes, peanut oil, salad dressing, mustard, ketchup, and a few hundred other items.

Yep.

:rolleyes: What company only uses vinegar in their pickle juice?

From Bick's garlic dills:
Cucumbers, water, white vinegar, salt, dehydrated garlic, calcium chloride, seasonings, polysorbate 80


from Bick's sweet pickles:
Cucumbers*, sugar/glucose-fructose, cauliflower*, water, white vinegar, onions*, salt, calcium chloride, potassium sorbate, seasonings, colour (contains tartrazine), polysorbate 80, sulphites

from Vlasik' baby dills: Cucumbers, Water, Salt, Distilled Vinegar,Calcium chloride, polysorbate 80, natural flavors, Potassium Metabisulfite (preservative), Yellow 5.
Heinz pickles, among others, are similar.

And from what I understand the allergies are only going to get worse the more sanitized we get, we are not building up an immunity to anything. When I was a kid we were taught we have to eat a peck of dirt before die. You can't even take a leak in the bush anymore unless there is a stream nearby to rush over to to wash your hands!
 

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And from what I understand the allergies are only going to get worse the more sanitized we get, we are not building up an immunity to anything. When I was a kid we were taught we have to eat a peck of dirt before die. You can't even take a leak in the bush anymore unless there is a stream nearby to rush over to to wash your hands!
You dodged my point, but introducing people to an allergen when they already have an allergy to it will not correct their allergy. And there are a huge amount of things that cause allergies, like pesticides, for instance that people eat. Most biological things, people can develop immunities to, but not chemicals. Chemicals cause chemical changes that are not natural to people's bodies.

Oh, the 'facepalm', because you can't grasp the difference between 'wages' and 'tips'.

Good on you.
Sort of. But if you don't go home with the $7+ then the employer has to also "tip" you, pay you, compensate you, etc. for the rest
Nitpicking is nitpicking..
 
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And from what I understand the allergies are only going to get worse the more sanitized we get, we are not building up an immunity to anything. When I was a kid we were taught we have to eat a peck of dirt before die. You can't even take a leak in the bush anymore unless there is a stream nearby to rush over to to wash your hands!

Take a lesson from Islam....and just don't wipe your a_ss with the same hand you eat with...;-)
 

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I know that JLM's point is that anyone who eats at McDonalds should shut up and take what they're handed, but reality is somewhat different.

No if there's a real problem I'll speak up, politely, without sarcasm, but I'm not about to start whining about a leaf of lettuce on the hamburger or a pickle. I admit this might be a carry over from when I was a kid and we had two choices about what was put in front of us, we could eat it without comment or we could whine and postpone it to the next meal. The most common allergy in those days might show up on your backside! :lol::lol:

You dodged my point, but introducing people to an allergen when they already have an allergy to it will not correct their allergy. And there are a huge amount of things that cause allergies, like pesticides, for instance that people eat. Most biological things, people can develop immunities to, but not chemicals. Chemicals change chemical changes that are not natural to people's bodies.

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Yeah, I started out meaning to respond to #Juan's comment about being allergic to a very small amount of the offending food and before I realized it I f**ked it up.
 

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No if there's a real problem I'll speak up, politely, without sarcasm, but I'm not about to start whining about a leaf of lettuce on the hamburger or a pickle.

You almost got the point. Being given food you specifically requested not to have is 'a problem'.

In other cases, with different foods, it can lead to death (such as in the case of allergies), so it is DEFINITELY a problem. It's not up to the McDonald's worker to decide WHY the customer asked for no lettuce, or no pickle. If someone asks for no lettuce, or no pickle, their job is to not put it on.

In my father's later years, he developed a shrimp allergy, after having eaten shrimp all his life. putting a piece of bread in his mouth that had touched a shrimp sandwich caused him to go into convulsions and need an adrenaline shot. That's why food can't simply be 'taken off' of something, it would have to be remade from scratch. Your slack attitude toward food safety could have killed him.
 

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You almost got the point. Being given food you specifically requested not to have is 'a problem'.

In other cases, with different foods, it can lead to death (such as in the case of allergies), so it is DEFINITELY a problem. It's not up to the McDonald's worker to decide WHY the customer asked for no lettuce, or no pickle. If someone asks for no lettuce, or no pickle, their job is to not put it on.

In my father's later years, he developed a shrimp allergy, after having eaten shrimp all his life. putting a piece of bread in his mouth that had touched a shrimp sandwich caused him to go into convulsions and need an adrenaline shot. That's why food can't simply be 'taken off' of something, it would have to be remade from scratch. Your slack attitude toward food safety could have killed him.

I understand the ramifications T.P. there was a case of a girl dying from eating a single peanut- 10 people have drowned in Okanagan Lake this summer......................do people quit swimming in it. There is definitely a risk of dying from McDonald's food but from allergies is fairly far down the list. Allergy, atheroschlerosis, stroke.............you're just as dead.
 

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Oh, the 'facepalm', because you can't grasp the difference between 'wages' and 'tips'.

Good on you.

It clearly states that if you don't get enough tips, it is the employer's responsibility to make sure you are paid 7.25. That's what you're missing. They may have to pay you the full 7.25, because it is the minimum wage, by law.
 

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It clearly states that if you don't get enough tips, it is the employer's responsibility to make sure you are paid 7.25. That's what you're missing. They may have to pay you the full 7.25, because it is the minimum wage, by law.

I wondering if someone in the restaurant industry who can't hustle enough to get the required amount of tips shouldn't be fired as they are possibly unsuitable for the job.
 

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I wondering if someone in the restaurant industry who can't hustle enough to get the required amount of tips shouldn't be fired as they are possibly unsuitable for the job.

I don't think you can put that on them, they can't choose who their customers are. They could end up getting a lot of cheap bastards, there are a lot of those out there.
 

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I wondering if someone in the restaurant industry who can't hustle enough to get the required amount of tips shouldn't be fired as they are possibly unsuitable for the job.

I'm willing to bet if they regularly cost their employer true minimum wage, they don't last long.
 

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I don't think you can put that on them, they can't choose who their customers are. They could end up getting a lot of cheap bastards, there are a lot of those out there.

Judging from the Americans I know, tipping is part of the cost you factor in to going out to eat. It's not optional, it's considered a duty, because the lack of pay is why your food is so damn cheap.

It's why Canadians come off rude and cheap traveling in the US, because here a tip is not their bread and butter.
 

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Judging from the Americans I know, tipping is part of the cost you factor in to going out to eat. It's not optional, it's considered a duty, because the lack of pay is why your food is so damn cheap.

It's why Canadians come off rude and cheap traveling in the US, because here a tip is not their bread and butter.

Probably. I know servers wages are lower than minimum wage, at least here in Ontario, but no where near the difference as posted earlier.

But just speaking for myself, I always tip and do consider it part of going out to eat. Honestly, I'm surprised that some people don't. The odd time when I may have inadvertently forgotten to tip I've actually felt guilty afterwards, lol.
 

karrie

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I don't tip bad service. That's the big difference between me and the Americans I know. They tip regardless.
 

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I don't know if I've ever had service so bad that I wouldn't tip at all, it might be just a small tip though. One thing I don't do that I see a lot of other people do is tip for counter service. I don't do mostly because I just don't think of it.
 

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Judging from the Americans I know, tipping is part of the cost you factor in to going out to eat. It's not optional, it's considered a duty, because the lack of pay is why your food is so damn cheap.

It's why Canadians come off rude and cheap traveling in the US, because here a tip is not their bread and butter.

To tell you the truth I don't think the employer should expect his employees to depend on tips for their wage. They can't suck and blow at the same time, restaurant meals are becoming prohibitively expensive, definitely enough to pay a liveable wage (if their food is any f**King good). Tips were originally meant for good service, not for such stuff as bringing you a glass of water when you are serving yourself at the buffet. I guess I'm from the old school. Years ago I worked in Powell River and ate at the Marine Inn restaurant. The restaurant sat 38, there was one waitress on the morning shift and and the restaurant was full every week day morning by 6:15. That waitress was at your table within 15 seconds of you coming through the door and 3 minutes later you'd have your ham and eggs or whatever. It was just beautiful to watch. Nowadays they have one person taking you to your table and possibly giving you water and THEN the waitress shows up. Too much squandering going on.

I don't tip bad service. That's the big difference between me and the Americans I know. They tip regardless.

Good for you Karrie, ones with an I.Q. of over 4 might even make the connection! :lol:

I don't know if I've ever had service so bad that I wouldn't tip at all, it might be just a small tip though. One thing I don't do that I see a lot of other people do is tip for counter service. I don't do mostly because I just don't think of it.

yeah, that's pouring it on a little thick. Don't feel guilty about not tipping for lousy service. Tips were originally for better than average service.
 

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I don't tip bad service. That's the big difference between me and the Americans I know. They tip regardless.

I don't either. Once, at crown isle which is a high end pub and restaurant, we had very bad service,
expressed 3 times for certain items, and waitress seemed to forget all about us.
I did not tip, put a little note with the bill after I paid, and mentioned the reason for 'no' tip, and
said I hoped it would be much improved next time, and said 'thanks anyway'.

Have kept tips back a few other times, at other places,but that is the only time I left a note, mostly because of the
good reputation of the establishment, we know it well, have eaten there many times since, without any
problems.
That particular time, it was really noticeable, and we saw the waitress chatting with people she knew, so
she needed a bit of a shock, and a wakeup call, and maybe we weren't the only ones to notice her
non interested attitude.

Never said a word to her on leaving, just the note.
 

JLM

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I don't either. Once, at crown isle which is a high end pub and restaurant, we had very bad service,
expressed 3 times for certain items, and waitress seemed to forget all about us.
I did not tip, put a little note with the bill after I paid, and mentioned the reason for 'no' tip, and
said I hoped it would be much improved next time, and said 'thanks anyway'.

Have kept tips back a few other times, at other places,but that is the only time I left a note, mostly because of the
good reputation of the establishment, we know it well, have eaten there many times since, without any
problems.
That particular time, it was really noticeable, and we saw the waitress chatting with people she knew, so
she needed a bit of a shock, and a wakeup call, and maybe we weren't the only ones to notice her
non interested attitude.

Never said a word to her on leaving, just the note.

LOL- Years ago my boss was telling me how a patron at the Arbutus Hotel Restaurant in Courtenay, when paying his bill was asked how his meal was. His retort- " the worst god damned meal I've had since the last time I ate here". :lol: