Climate Change and the American Political Agenda

[EagleSmack]

Nimbyism!

Yes indeed. My liberal state of Massachusetts is all about saving the planet and stopping Global Warming... providing it is kept out of their pristine illy white neighborhoods and sailing areas. They'd be more than happy to stick windmills off New Bedford and Fall River as long as they keep them away from Hyannis and Marthas Vineyard where the beautiful people vacation.

 

[petros]

Yes indeed. My liberal state of Massachusetts is all about saving the planet and stopping Global Warming... providing it is kept out of their pristine illy white neighborhoods and sailing areas. They'd be more than happy to stick windmills off New Bedford and Fall River as long as they keep them away from Hyannis and Marthas Vineyard where the beautiful people vacation.

Weren't wind gennys banned in the Hamptons? I wonder why?

 

[EagleSmack]

Weren't wind gennys banned in the Hamptons? I wonder why?

Oh I would bet they were!

 

[Cabbagesandking]

The article relates strongly to what was government (government everywhere) policy twent five years ago before money became frightened.

Unfortunately, it is far too late for a gradualistic approach now. We have at most a few years left in which to act dramatically to avoid complete catastrophe. We cannot now avoid very serious consequences; we can only attempt to mitigate the damages to a point that we can survive them. We cannot adapt to what will be here wothin a few decades but on;y hope it is a state that will be tolerable.

350 is not some target for a future. It is a necessity in a very short term. Even if we do achieve it, the effects of what is now there will last for a couple of centuries - and probably longer.

Politics and economics are quite irrelevant now. It is survival. There will be a Depression that will make the 30s seem like good times within a twenty or thirty years if we do not act now. That is because there will necessarily be the imposition of a radical change whether we like it or not. Authoritarian government is inevitable and democracy will die IF we do not act within this next few years.

 

[petros]

We have at most a few years left in which to act dramatically to avoid complete catastrophe.

And what sort of catastrophy are you predicting?

 

[EagleSmack]

 

[Cabbagesandking]

And what sort of catastrophy are you predicting?

Thet catastrophic collapse of an environment amenable to human life. There is no "sort" at issue. At the present rate of change in sea levels for one example, within fifty years almost every coastal city in the world will be feeling the effects. Somewhat sooner than that, some two billion people will be hard pressed to find sufficient fresh water for survival. Again, sooner, the one billion around the world who depend on the bounty of coral reefs will have to find some substitute - the reefs will be dead.

At this time, there are fifty climate refugees in the world. within that fifty years the number will be in the hundreds of millions ( and many of those will be fighting to get into your backyard). By 2020 there will be twenty million in Bangladesh alone.

Droughts, floods! They will be decadal and, in some areas, annual, events instead of something that happens once in hundreds of years. That new Category six for hurricanes that is already being considered will have speculation about whether there should be a Category seven.

And that is the good stuff! Your grandchildren will probably dig you up and eat your bones.

 

[EagleSmack]

You're nuts.

Seriously... you're certifiable.

 

[petros]

Thet catastrophic collapse of an environment amenable to human life.

So why not just kill yourself now? Afraid you might be wrong?

 

[Cabbagesandking]

What insightful responses. I am not wrong, petros. If that is wrong, then scien is wrong. The evidence of your eyes is wrong. All that I posted is already well under way and very apparent.

Not only that, but the Laws of Physics show that the conditions are now unavoidable. It cannot be otherwise. All that is in question is how much we can do to mitigate.

 

[EagleSmack]

What insightful responses. I am not wrong, petros. If that is wrong, then scien is wrong. The evidence of your eyes is wrong. All that I posted is already well under way and very apparent.

No it really isn't.

Not only that, but the Laws of Physics show that the conditions are now unavoidable. It cannot be otherwise. All that is in question is how much we can do to mitigate.

LOL.

 

[petros]

. I am not wrong, petros.

Well then? What is stopping you from doing the planet a favour and putting a bullet in your melon? You might save a barnacle or two.

 

[Cabbagesandking]

No it really isn't.



LOL.

Should you not change your name to Eagle SmacED? You post like one who has taken a few too many to the head.

 

[petros]

So when are you going to sacrifice yourself for mama Gaia and the rest of the dirt worshipping heathens? Need help?

 

[EagleSmack]

Should you not change your name to Eagle SmacED? You post like one who has taken a few too many to the head.

Then wouldn't it be SmackED?

FAIL.

Try again.

 

[petros]

Then wouldn't it be SmackED?

FAIL.

Try again.

You're dealing with a SpED

 

[Walter]

Maybe they oughta pass a law stating they can't be erected within 500' of anyone's house.

Too late in parts of ON.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Should you not change your name to Eagle SmacED? You post like one who has taken a few too many to the head.

Only thing missing from this internet response is the obligitory comparison to Hitler.

 

[coldstream]

The fact of the matter is now AGW is the most heavily promoted and financed boondoggle in the history of world.

Cap and trade is outright attempt to control the world's productive capacity.. in fact dramatically reduce that capacity below that required to support its human population.. in the interest of a Global Trading Oligarchy.. at the behest of a fraudulent political agenda... run by a corrupt, human hating group of Eco-fascists.

There never has been any AGW.. its a hypothesis so full of holes and lies.. that any circumspect analysis would lead you the assertion that is a scam.

The reason it hasn't taken taken centre place in the American Presidential debate.. is that there is NO Global Warming... much less anthropogenic Global Warming... despite the hysterical attempts of the American media.. to create a crisis that doesn't exist.

You just can't fool ALL of the people ALL of the time... just a predicable group of fools and fanatics.. many in influential places in the American media.. or Ivy League academic institutions.. like twit who wrote this nonsense. And that is a source of immense frustration to the culprits behind the con job.

 

[BaalsTears]

Global Warming can't be stopped. China and India will not sacrifice economic growth under any circumstances. It doesn't matter what America does on this issue.