Stripping expatriate right to vote may be unconstitutional

Liberalman

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Leave it to the federal Conservatives to take more rights away from Canadian especially the visible minority ones.
 

Machjo

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Tough sh*t then... They made their democratic decision to leave the nation, they weren't asked to leave or extradited on criminal warrants. They chose an option and that choice has consequences... They have (temporarily) lost that right to vote just like they lost their right to apply for and receive EI, welfare and subsidized healthcare.

Debatable. Let's say you're unemployed and the skills you happen to possess are in demand in another country. Do you stick around on social assistance or go to work abroad for a couple of years? One could say choosing to leave for a few years could show a love for the nation whereas sticking around when you could have left, depending on details of course, could be a sign you don't care about your countrymen.

Just a though.
 

CDNBear

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Democratic legislation?
You can try and make this about a class of people, but you have yet to show how the law applies to one class, subset, race or what have you.

The law applies to people who have moved, pay no taxes, have no ties to, or intent of return. Which makes your following overly simplistic statement...

And those not resident for five years or longer.

Null.

Leave it to the federal Conservatives to take more rights away from Canadian especially the visible minority ones.
It was enacted by the Liberals in 1993.

Enjoy.
 

CDNBear

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Debatable. Let's say you're unemployed and the skills you happen to possess are in demand in another country. Do you stick around on social assistance or go to work abroad for a couple of years? One could say choosing to leave for a few years could show a love for the nation whereas sticking around when you could have left, depending on details of course, could be a sign you don't care about your countrymen.

Just a though.
And if I wanted to return at the end of my contract, I would keep a mailing address here.

I've worked outside Canada, in the private sector. Mind you I was on a Canadian payroll, and only gone for 6 months at a time.

 

Spade

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You can try and make this about a class of people, but you have yet to show how the law applies to one class, subset, race or what have you.

The law applies to people who have moved, pay no taxes, have no ties to, or intent of return. Which makes your following overly simplistic statement...



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The principle is simple. In a democracy, law-abiding citizens are not denied the vote.
 

CDNBear

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The principle is simple. In a democracy, law-abiding citizens are not denied the vote.
You're absolutely right. If you abide by the law, and maintain ties to Canada, and intend on returning. You don't lose your right to guide in the countries future.

I knew you'd see the light eventually Spade.
 

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Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms

"Democratic rights of citizens
3. Every citizen of Canada has the right to vote in an election of members of the House of Commons or of a legislative assembly and to be qualified for membership therein."


cit·i·zen

   [sit-uh-zuhn, -suhn] Show IPA
noun 1.a native or naturalized member of a state or nation who owes allegiance to its government and is entitled to its protection ( distinguished from alien).
2.an inhabitant of a city or town, especially one entitled to its privileges or franchises.

3.an inhabitant, or denizen: The deer is a citizen of our woods.

4.a civilian, as distinguished from a soldier, police officer, etc.




cit·i·zen·ship

   [sit-uh-zuhn-ship, -suhn-] Show IPA
noun 1.the state of being vested with the rights, privileges, and duties of a citizen.
2. the character of an individual viewed as a member of society; behavior in terms of the duties, obligations, and functions of a citizen: an award for good citizenship.
 

wulfie68

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I can agree in principle, but then foreigners residing in Canada pay taxes. No taxation without representation.

Wrong: its not taxation without representation. After a period of time (usually 5 years... omg that arbitrary number again!?!?!) they can apply to become a citizen and obtain the right (and in my opinion obligation!) to vote. In the interim, they are still benfiting from the infrastructure and social & economic frameworks supported by the taxes they pay, so its not like they receive no benefit.