Stripping expatriate right to vote may be unconstitutional
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It seems, that is always your argument with people you disagree with, myself, Mentalfloss, etc.., and when you don't have a concrete reply to the post.. I think your perception skills are poor..
I seriously hope someday you see how nauseatingly condescending a person you really are.
... ;-)
Actually no. It's my standard reply when people start commenting on my current disposition.
I'm not surprised that you weren't able to grasp that. Which makes your pic all the more ironic.
I already know. It's purposeful. Maybe if you spent less time gawking at underage looking girls and spent more time actually reading what is typed. You wouldn't embarrass yourself so often.
Says the guy who's boinking SLM.
I think their one in the same.. it's just his/her dual personality on this forum.
Oh oh, Fuzzy's real mad now.Says the guy who's boinking SLM.
Oh, you go get you some too, lol.
This is funny to watch.
Oh oh, so mad he's banging his head against his keyboard.
Maybe you need some time off line. It seems to upset you way to much.
Didn't you mean to say "stfu Bear. Put him on ignore and stop clogging up EVERY thread with this bull**** ".
Hence the equal application of negs.
Just saying... ;-)
Using me as your example is a poor one: I also have a green card (i.e. landed immigrant status) in the US, so as long as I obey the rules, US citizenship will be a non-issue. Also on my side are the fact that I married an honorably discharged US Army veteran and have fathered an American citizen (my American Wee Man... with apologies to Burton Cummings and the Guess Who for rewriting their lyrics when I sing to my little man
). Also, I would not have left Canada and my citizenship without a firm destination in mind.And sorry Praxius but I think you are wrong: we both CHOSE to leave the land of our birth and there are consequences associated with that (and every) choice. If you didn't think through all the ramifications of your actions, thats YOUR problem, not anyone else's and not the country's as a whole.
There are consequences, wulfie. The problem some here have is in assuming that the consequences must accord with their feelings. There is no justification in law for the stripping anyone of citizenship.
The world would be full of roving armies of stateless people if there were. Desperate people.
We have talked of the many hundreds of thousands of Canadians who,legitimately, work overseas and think of themselves as nothing but Canadian. Think of Britain in the days of Empire. Milloions of Britons would have disenfranchised and stripped of citizenship under the ideas that are being floated here.
The world would be full of roving armies of stateless people if there were. Desperate people.
We have talked of the many hundreds of thousands of Canadians who,legitimately, work overseas and think of themselves as nothing but Canadian. Think of Britain in the days of Empire. Milloions of Britons would have disenfranchised and stripped of citizenship under the ideas that are being floated here.
Yes there is: in choosing not to reside in Canada and by choosing not to pay Canadian taxes; by not contributing to Canadian society, we have chosen to remove ourselves. After 5 years, like the law is implying, we have had an ample time to make up our minds about where we want to live.
Nonsense. This changes nothing in the way the world turns.
Another bad example. Those Britons in the days of the Empire resided in places claimed by the Empire: they lived in His or Her Majesty's realm. People like Praxius and myself are choosing to reside, for whatever reason, in places Canada has no claim to and has never claimed as parts of Canada.
Rather than me explain what you meant, how about you show us all some examples that fit your claim that Canadians who live abroad often come back to the country to retire and milk the system & other tax payer's money.
It's about as baseless as when people complain that people from other countries come to Canada for medical needs & get treated for free, at the tax payer's expense..... that doesn't happen either. My wife when she first came to the country was covered by travel insurance for serious medical needs, but it didn't cover her when she needed a prescription for some antibiotics.
For something typically free for every Canadian Citizen, she ended up having to pay $325 out of her own pocket for the doctor's visit and the medication.
^ This is just one example of how so many people fear things they don't understand and think there are others out there who haven't contributed to society and will get things for free at the expense of tax payers.
Rather than worrying about all the "Free Loaders" (Canadian Citizens) you think come into the country to suck dry all the social services from the rest of Canadians, how about you worry more on the actual Canadians living inside the country who don't bother to work, who continually milk the welfare & EI services and spawn children of their own who end up doing the same.... who also don't contribute to society or their communities, and whom either rarely vote, or don't vote at all.
I guess because they have their feet still on Canadian Soil, they're more of a worthy Canadian than those who live outside of the country, yet still get involved in what's happening back in Canada & still give a damn.
Funny how you never figured out after all these years of me posting in here that I am someone who thinks things through a lot, think of all the possible outcomes of a situation and who always accepts responsibility for his own actions, as well as the consequences.
Yeah, I did choose to leave the country, which I did think through and at the time I made that decision and went through the process of moving to Australia, I did so knowing I am fully permitted to retain my Canadian Citizenship and either stay in Australia as a Perm. Resident, or go further and have Dual Citizenship with both countries.
If that wasn't the case, then I would have re-thought the entire process..... but it is the case, those were/are my available options then, as they still are now. My son is already both a Canadian and an Australian Citizen due to both my and my wife being citizens of both nations. He has the right to decide when he is older, which country he would like to live in for the rest of his life.
For me and my wife, we are both still trying to figure out if we would prefer to remain in Australia or move back to Canada..... but we can't fk'n do that if we can't live in both countries for a period of time to find out, can we?
You may not give two craps about your Canadian Citizenship and couldn't care less if you lost your's..... But I Do.
In Canada and in Australia, and as myself being a Canadian Citizen, I have basic rights that are/should be protected like every other Canadian and one of those rights is my damn right to vote, which as I mentioned earlier, was tossed by the government in the last election as I was not entitled to vote..... which was complete BS since I wasn't out of the country for 5 years.... hell, I wasn't out of the country for 4 months when the election came around and my right to vote was denied..... which is unconsitutional.
If I was out of the country for more than 5 years based on the current way the system works, sure, I'd accept that I didn't have the right to vote, because that's the way things are now..... I think it's wrong and I think it should be changed, but that's the way things go...... however in my specific case, I was excluded from the last election when I was only out of the country for a couple of months, so yeah.... I have an issue with that.
Sez who?
Some people need more than 5 years.... some people are on a contracted job in a country that may span more than 5 years and then after that, they have to go home or apply for perm residency..... You may already have come to the conclusion that you don't want to return to Canada and you're perfectly happy in staying in the US.... good for you.
My family and I are still deciding on what we want to do and during that time we may move back to Canada for a couple of years, and then decide to move back to Australia..... and maybe move back.
A guy I used to work with years ago also has a wife from Australia. He works two years in Australia, the moves back to Canada to work for two years, then he moves back to Austrlia. He's been doing this for the last 15 years...... would you call him more Canadian or more Australian??
People can have two homes you know?
Not everybody fits my situation..... I'm fully aware of this.... but you need to keep in mind that not everybody fits your situation.
Yet Canada and Australia are both a part of the Commonwealth and both countries have more in common with one another than Canada does with the US..... which is why I'm still allowed to drive in Australia using my Canadian Driver's license, among other things.
Except the legislation in 1993 that strips Canadian citizenship from from persons living, working and paying taxes abroad. For more than 5 years.
Seriously. How are you? What is your goal here? Nobody can be as wrong, ignorant, silly, obtuse, rude, and so on, as you are, without doing it purposely.
Not even in the slightest. The little wink smilie, and the long friendship between Karrie and I, would have been a dead give away to those with some commonsense.
Awesome, another citizen of convenience.
Canadians who have not revoked their citizenship or committed any crime should retain all rights and privileges. This is a punitive measure to target specific groups who live abroad.
Let me finish that for you...
, work abroad, and have no more ties to Canada (other than their citizenship of convenience of course).
And I have to ask, why do you think the Liberals want to punish this mythical "Specific group" you speak of?