I thought that the President's Cup was the real prize, this playoff stuff is nothing. Isn't that what our resident Canucks fans keep saying? If that's the case, I don't know why they care what happens in these playoffs, the real prize is already theirs.
That's true but I believe you are ignoring the "money aspect". :lol:
Didn't Philly come back against Boston a couple of years ago?
I believe the Islanders did against Pittsburgh in the 70's.
That was probably it, what we were discussing was fairly recent, but we are just a couple of old codgers whose faculties are failing. :lol:
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I don't believe, and haven't said that the presidents' cup is more important.
I have said that the two cups are completely separate, and comparing one to
the other, for me doesn't make sense.
They won the presidents' cup, showed many good qualities, only one team can do
that out of 32, and gives all of the home ice advantage, and shouldn't be
spat upon.,it is not easy to win, then the season is OVER
Now the new season has begun, playoffs, totally different, short, and any team
can win, doesn't matter about seeds at all.
And the winner has the stanley cup, and that is great, and that is the prize they
are all after.
I think about 1/3 of the presidents' cup winners go on to win the stanley cup,
and that is the only connection between the two cups.
Yes philly came back to beat boston 4 straight, 2 or 3 years ago, forget, maybe
it was when chicago won the cup.
that has only been done 3 times.
I would like to see canucks win a couple, but i'm sure not going to watch, sitting
on the edge of my seat, hoping and praying, thats not my style, especially the
praying part. lol
the odds are too high for me, but however many games they do win, if any, I will
enjoy and cheer for them.
I was so glad I listened when ray ferraro was on team 1040 this morning, because
he made several good points concerning 'jumping' all over the coaches right now.
I agree with everything he said.
That is the first thing fans do, as they have to find blame, and spout and fume.
Each player must take the responsibility due to them, no blame, look into the
situation and find solutions as long as the team is still in it.
good eg. is edler, I've been watching him since he came into the league. Back
then he use to show lots of promise, but had a 'sieze' up side of him, looked
very scared and nervous in 'big' games, and also not so big games, as the
years went by there was lots of improvement, BUT what we are seeing in this
series, is exactly how he was early on, very tight, nervous, and making bad
decisions. That is not a coaches fault, but in the off season maybe they better
reconstruct their defense pairings, and next year be ready for 'his' melt downs,
if they come, and not have him on the first pairing.
This is not a facts and figures kind of job where you submit your work, and it
better be correct, this is human behavior, many humans involved, there is no
perfect answer every time those humans do their job, confidence is very involved,
and that can be dealt with in a variety of ways, but success breeds success, and
when a team is struggling, not scoring goals, and many of the players on the
team are guilty of 'that', it is a struggle, a coach can't show them how to put
the puck in the net, he has shown them for a few years how to become the best
players they can be, and has done a superb job, just take note of their success
over the past two years, and lets not forget that.
Another good eg. kesler, after last season everyone was expecting him to be that
player this year, oooops, not happening, so the scoring that was expected from him
didn't appear, big hole in the offense because of his lack of offense, and
others as well, so nothing is guaranteed in sports, have to deal with how the
years goes, the good and the bad, try their hardest to fix problems, but coaches
can only show them the way, they have to go on the ice and execute, its not black
and white, so much grey area.
The coaches will take their responsibility seriously.
The power play was the biggest let down on the team, looked a bit better last night,
but still not what it should be.
I'm allready thinking of training camp in the fall. There will be changes for
sure.
And, if vineault isn't the coach, then whomever it is will have his work cut out
for him, life goes on.
I'm not really enjoying many of the playoffs so far, the games are far too out of wack,
far too many melt downs, fights, and dirty hits, and immature behavior, don't know
what has happened to the teams this year, haven't seen this crap for many years.
Never thought I would see crosby acting like a goon, and saying stupid things,
but I did, and he did.
There seems to be real hatred out there, even crosby said he didn't like anyone
on the philly team, right to the media.
All the years I watched gretzky, never heard him talk so childishly, made that
C on crosby's sweater look totally misplaced.
The Pittsburg team has completely come undone, along with their captain.
Henrik, iginla, toews, lidstrom, alfredsson, etc etc., would never talk
like he did.
My garden is starting to make me cheer for it, louder than these hockey games.
I don't watch hockey to see the crap I've seen so far, and the canuck games
are mild compared to some others.
I must add: Darryl Sutter will not be happy with his team after last night at
all, they were badly outplayed 'most' of the game, just their goalie, and
their good defense won them the game, and canucks lack of good offense, so he is probably ripping them apart
as we speak.