Limbaugh's message to 'feminazis'
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Let me put it to you this way:
I am a believer in the advantages of government supported health care.........it has literally saved my life.
However it is increasingly used not to provide for the needs of the citizenry, but as an excuse to interfere with their freedom of choice (in Canada)........and now their freedom of religion (in the USA). And yes, to tell a Catholic institution they must provide for contraception and morning after pills IS interfering with legitimate religious freedom.
And if government health care is to be used as a cudgel with which to beat us all into line.....I say dump it, do away with it....down with health care!
This idiot woman made a choice, she said so herself. She sacrificed one thing for another.......good for her.
Now she should quit whinning about the need to destroy the religious foundations of the institution she chose to provide her with the best possible education....
She needs to STFU and buy her own pills.....
What are my contentions Gerry? As for the report:
And that included...access to contraceptives, which was recommendation 5.5 for Preventative Health Care Services for Women that Should be Considered by the US Department of Health and Human Services: The full range of Food and Drug Administration-approved contraceptive methods, sterilization procedures, and patient education and counseling for women with reproductive capacity.
Dig a little further, or take your Cardinal tinted glasses off...
The contraceptives are to prevent pregnancy...that's it... that's what we are talking about. I know some purport that pregnancy is a disease and that the baby is nothing more than a benign growth, I and the Catholic Church do not look at pregnancy in that way.
Like Colpy says, she wants contraceptives to prevent pregnancy, go buy rubbers. I'll also suggest spermicidal jelly for an added precaution. OR, she can put all her energy into getting her education rather than splitting it between education and getting laid.
Oh, and BTW, it was Pope Paul VI, not a Cardinal that wrote the HUMANAE VITAE (On The Regulation Of Birth).
Rather a silly comment. It is the insurance company and University that are applying their moral standards to all Christians, Catholic or not. She wants the option provided in the insurance policies, that the students & employees pay for, not the insurance company nor the University. Viagra is subsidized but not every man needs to take advantage of it.
Most Catholics of child bearing age, ( between 97, 98%) use birthcontrol. So exactly who's moral standards are being forced on students and employees in this case??, not Sandra Fluke's.
If one buys car insurance, the one paying the premium gets to choose the options they wish to pay for as a group. What if those doing the dickering for the group are hasidic Jews rather than one of the many other Jewish groups?? Do those Hasidic Jews have the right to forbid pay outs on accidents occurring on the Sabbeth to all Jews, Christians or non-believers in the group? Bet your life they don't. There would be the greatest uproar. However, the control of women's uteruses seems to be an obsession of many here.
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I know she can't see this.....but..... are you fu cking stupid??????????????? It's a CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY. Not a non denominational, or some other Christian sect, or Hasidic Jew, It's CATHOLIC! You want to go to a Catholic school, then you play by the Catholic rules.
Your opinion, which apparently is unaware of a few things. Religious freedom is not absolute. The US cannot makes laws against beliefs, but they can against the practices. Nobody is forced to give up their religious belief that contraception is wrong. The US has banned polygamy, which some early Mormons unsuccessfully challenged. Anyone can hold that belief that polygamy is OK, the practice however is not.
As said many times already, there is a long list of beliefs that adherents to various religions cannot actually practice.
Having an employee or student with an insurance policy that includes contraceptive medicine will not inhibit anyone from believing anything. The law would prevent them from denying employees and students access to approved healthcare.
Beat into line...you do love the drama don't you? The vast majority of women use contraceptive pills, because it offers a number of health benefits, besides just preventing ovulation. It's a bona fide health benefit that should be at the discretion of a Doctor and their patient. Further, there is significant scientific evidence that birth control such as the oral contraceptive pill, offers a benefit for women's health. It significantly reduces healthcare costs.
Yeah, irrelevant. Things change. She should speak up if that's what she believes.
More drama...jesus you're worse than the politicians in Ottawa.
She doesn't need to do anything that she isn't already doing. That's a celebrated part of American democracy. She certainly doesn't need your advice. She's promoting preventative medicine...
What bullcrap you spout. Religious freedom is the right to pratice a religion,it is not about inflicting a particular belief on anyone else. So perhaps, since you are not of child-bearing age, nor female, you should follow your own advice and STFU.
no one is inflicting beliefs on any one else..... except for the Non Catholics and the u.s. governmant. THEY are trying to inflict their beliefs on a Catholic Institution.
No Gerry...they aren't. They reduce risks for many diseases that humans with ovaries can get.
Liar liar...you can't have read the report.
It's not your choice. It's between her and her Doctor.
Rose coloured glasses, cardinal and rose, shades of the same colour, Cardinal....ahh forget it.
I wondered what American Catholics were thinking....
From an article on the National Catholic Reporter Website
Quote:
"Perhaps most importantly, the bishops can't count on even a majority of the nation's 67 million Catholics to support their position -- whatever it turns out to be. Surveys show that U.S. Catholics -- including the most devout -- do not heed the bishops' teachings against artificial birth control, and framing the issue as a threat to religious freedom hasn't moved Catholics to mass opposition."
From an article on the National Catholic Reporter Website
Quote:
"Perhaps most importantly, the bishops can't count on even a majority of the nation's 67 million Catholics to support their position -- whatever it turns out to be. Surveys show that U.S. Catholics -- including the most devout -- do not heed the bishops' teachings against artificial birth control, and framing the issue as a threat to religious freedom hasn't moved Catholics to mass opposition."
Perhaps you should buy a brain somewhere.......
The gov't is "inflicting a belief" on the Catholic Church.
The church is NOT forcing anyone to attend their university, so they are NOT inflicting anything on anybody.
So then can you explain how the government can be successful at prohibiting smoking inside a business? The employees could choose to work somewhere else...there's a disconnect between how you think the world works, and how it actually works.
No, they aren't. However, they are tools to enable men to have gratuitous sex for reasons other than procreation, which is wrong according to what Coldstream says.
So it is OK for the church to fund men going against the church teachings, but not women.
Women can take what ever aphrodisiacs that they want, and lets make this really clear - the issue here is contraceptives, not cialis or viagra
And no one is preventing Fluke from accessing it.... But if Fluke is that concerned about her health status, she can guarantee her good health by keeping her legs shut.
It sure is between the Doc and Fluke - and yet again, no one is stopping her from accessing these contraceptives
No problem there - the comment is nothing but forgetable
BBC News - Pill 'lowers ovarian cancer risk'
Please, do tell. How does "keeping her legs shut" guarantee she won't get ovarian cancer?
So, this is about ovarian cancer then? Funny, but fluke only mentioned the ovarian disease issue a couple of times but ranted and raved about contraception the remainder of her diatribe.
Well, in light of that potential, perhaps we ought to lobby for preventative chemotherapy in advance for all women, you know, just in case.
The issue is that the university believes that their health plan should not cover contraceptives, and apparently, to argue against that makes one a **** or a ***** who wants the goverment to pay you to have sex.
End of story.