Resolving Canada’s 'Indian problem’

The Old Medic

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So, rights are to be determined by POLLING?

Or, how the aboriginal peoples of Canada are treated is to be a popularity game?

In actual fact, had the Indians NOT supported the British side, it IS highly likely that the Americans would have taken Canada during the war of 1812. So many Canadians forget that the sentiment in the Atlantic Provinces was a lot more pro-American than pro-British.

And, you might just want to consider the fact that Canada has been cited, REPEATEDLY, by the United Nations for it's refusal to properly treat it's native peoples.

Canada refuses to honor either the Jay treaty or the Treaty of Paris, both of which enacted specific rights for the Native people of the US and Canada. It's funny, but the United States honors those provisions in their entirety, while Canada refuses to honor any of them. Any Canadian Indian, of 50% native ancestry or more, can enter the USA without a "green card" seek and obtain employment, obtain a Social security Card, bring in any and all personal possessions and trade with any natives in Canada 100% duty free, and they never have to go through obtaining any Visa, import/export permit, etc.

But, Canada does not allow American Indians to come into Canada, obtain employment, bring in any goods (personal or otherwise), or live in the country without going through the normal immigration process. They also will not allow Canadian Indians to bring any goods back across the border, without the same duties schedule as any other Canadian.

This is just ONE of the many ways that Canada simply refuses to acknowledge the rights of their indigenous peoples.
 

dumpthemonarchy

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How come the UN never condemns native leaders for letting their people live in squalor on so many reserves? Attack a big soft target like Canada and the apologists come out and make useless noise. Takes two to tango.

Treaties are dated, they separate people by race and they shouldn't, because scientifically, race doesn't exist. So why do we have treaites and a separation of races in the country? A rich country that does more than most ensure the population, without discriminaition, has decent living standards.
 

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How come the UN never condemns native leaders for letting their people live in squalor on so many reserves? Attack a big soft target like Canada and the apologists come out and make useless noise. Takes two to tango.

Treaties are dated, they separate people by race and they shouldn't, because scientifically, race doesn't exist. So why do we have treaites and a separation of races in the country? A rich country that does more than most ensure the population, without discriminaition, has decent living standards.

What other laws would you throw out.
If there were no Aboriginals - First Nations, who would be your next racial victim.
Which culture is next on your list. Come on tell us - Muslims, Africans, Chinese - Who would be next.
 

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Some people are feeling a little fascistic, agree with me or else.

Trouble is in Canada, the economy and public attutdes change faster than the govt. The senate has been found to be useless for over 100 years, yet still it slumbers on. Can't change it. Too many rural seats, no change permitted. Just keep everything the same so the dullards can sleep on.
 

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Some people are feeling a little fascistic, agree with me or else.

Trouble is in Canada, the economy and public attutdes change faster than the govt. The senate has been found to be useless for over 100 years, yet still it slumbers on. Can't change it. Too many rural seats, no change permitted. Just keep everything the same so the dullards can sleep on.

No sarcasm - You bring up a problem, but your hatred of Natives is what brings the problem forwards along with your so called solutions. You think you fool people. Really.

Yes we have dullards in this country along with hateful fuks like yourself. Myself i will choose the dullard.
 

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No sarcasm - You bring up a problem, but your hatred of Natives is what brings the problem forwards along with your so called solutions. You think you fool people. Really.

Yes we have dullards in this country along with hateful fuks like yourself. Myself i will choose the dullard.

No no no, you're the dullard. Can't you see, people like yourself think there are no aboriginal problems that can't be solved by doing nothing. Anyone who has ideas outside the little box you inhabit must he hateful because minds like yours can't see anything different, ever. Children living n crack shacks across the country? no problem, you'll just watch more hockey. Children growing up with no education of job skills? Hockey hockey hockey.

You're why people hate politics in Canada, all you do is oppose, you have no ideas at all. If you do state them.
 

gerryh

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No no no, you're the dullard. Can't you see, people like yourself think there are no aboriginal problems that can't be solved by doing nothing. Anyone who has ideas outside the little box you inhabit must he hateful because minds like yours can't see anything different, ever. Children living n crack shacks across the country? no problem, you'll just watch more hockey. Children growing up with no education of job skills? Hockey hockey hockey.

You're why people hate politics in Canada, all you do is oppose, you have no ideas at all. If you do state them.


Your idea of solving the problem is by taking everything away from First Nations and having them disappear into the Canadian population.
 

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Treaties are dated, they separate people by race...
No they don't.

Some people are feeling a little fascistic, agree with me or else.
Every time you admit that, you're one step closer to better mental health.

No no no, you're the dullard. Can't you see, people like yourself think there are no aboriginal problems that can't be solved by doing nothing.
Can you point out where Goob's has said that?

Anyone who has ideas outside the little box you inhabit must he hateful because minds like yours can't see anything different, ever.
You aren't thinking outside the box. You're thoughts aren't even remotely unique.

You're why people hate politics in Canada, all you do is oppose, you have no ideas at all.
A classic example of projection.

That is what some successful aboriginal chiefs suggest.
Which Chiefs would those be?
 

L Gilbert

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How come the UN never condemns native leaders for letting their people live in squalor on so many reserves? Attack a big soft target like Canada and the apologists come out and make useless noise. Takes two to tango.
Canada slammed during UN human rights review | National Union of Public and General Employees

Treaties are dated,
Some are.
they separate people by race and they shouldn't,
Wrong. They separate people by culture.
because scientifically, race doesn't exist.
Bullshyte. We're the human race. Well, some of us anyway.
So why do we have treaites and a separation of races in the country?
Because Canada took from aboriginals and is compensating. DUH
A rich country that does more than most ensure the population, without discriminaition, has decent living standards.
And is still working on a more equitable system. It's getting better.

That is what some successful aboriginal chiefs suggest.
That doesn't make them any more right than you.
 

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Chief Manny Jules of the Kamloops ban in BC for one. Chief Weasel Head of Alberta has said so on CBC. If so many people-as in "the tax supported leadership" red and white, are against this, it must be a great idea. Imagine, letting Indians have their own house, property and money. Do leaders want well off, smart followers? Not if they can help it. They want dumb clients.

Must be many old fashioned Indian agents on this site, professing to be looking out for the best interest of Indians by keeping them poor. Very sad. tsk tsk
 

CDNBear

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Chief Manny Jules of the Kamloops ban in BC for one. Chief Weasel Head of Alberta has said so on CBC.
Here's the string dumpster...

Your idea of solving the problem is by taking everything away from First Nations and having them disappear into the Canadian population.

That is what some successful aboriginal chiefs suggest.

Please tell us how Weaselhead or Jules support what your answer to Gh claims.
 

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Must be many old fashioned Indian agents on this site, professing to be looking out for the best interest of Indians by keeping them poor. Very sad. tsk tsk
lol That's one of the most pathetic attempts at spin I have seen in a long time.

dumpster doesn't live in Canada.

He lives in his own little world.
And that seems to be about 10 cubic cm of mousehole.