Feds cut funding to key science facility

damngrumpy

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As someone who is involved in agriculture and the politics of agriculture I would like to
inform you, that this government is cutting science and research in almost every field.
The Pacific Agricultural Research facility in Summerland BC has seen a substantial
reduction in funding. They are in fact entering or getting ready to enter into a science
cluster format. The language suggests they are going to privatize the whole works over
time.
The worst thing that could happen, government needs to be involved scientifically for
the good of promoting advances in Canada and for the social and industrial development.
Turning this over to the private sector means they will only concentrate on what makes
money for them and to hell with everything else and that is a drawback over time.
 

petros

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It's 15 kilometers from Eureka. There are people there year round. $1.5
million is operating expenses...how do you figure that is only salary? That
makes even less sense than your other posts...
Perfect. Just a short helo ride to maintain from Eureka. No need for full timers.
 

L Gilbert

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As someone who is involved in agriculture and the politics of agriculture I would like to
inform you, that this government is cutting science and research in almost every field.
The Pacific Agricultural Research facility in Summerland BC has seen a substantial
reduction in funding. They are in fact entering or getting ready to enter into a science
cluster format. The language suggests they are going to privatize the whole works over
time.
The worst thing that could happen, government needs to be involved scientifically for
the good of promoting advances in Canada and for the social and industrial development.
Turning this over to the private sector means they will only concentrate on what makes
money for them and to hell with everything else and that is a drawback over time.
Yep.
 

petros

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Oh that's right. It's better to have someone there full time burning heating oil to keep things clean instead of remote sensing.
 

Tonington

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Oh that's right. It's better to have someone there full time burning heating oil to keep things clean instead of remote sensing.

They are remote sensing right now, not all of the work done up there is done by remote sensing...
 

Tonington

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Manipulating? You were the one who wanted scientists and their equipment moved inside larger settlements... which would actually add biases to the data in multiple fashions...the corrections GISS makes are made by looking at nearby rural stations, and it's justifiable due to the autocorrelation that exists between two sites that are close in proximity. Anthony Watts claim to fame was driving around the US and taking pictures of poorly situated weather stations. Then volunteers got involved. They made lots of noise about the data processing and poorly situated sites, but analysis has refuted their claims that the methods alone are responsible for the trends scientists have reported on.

The agencies who track global temperature anomalies adjust stations that have obvious biases, due to things like development building up around historical weather stations, or station moves, changes in the equipment, how the temperature data is gathered, etc. You can read about the methodology of the GISS changes in this paper where they describe the processing of the data. Believe it or not, raw data is not sacrosanct....and you can download all the source code and data you want from the GISS website. Or even the CRU website if you like.

The agencies like GISS, and CRU and NCDC were corroborated by scientists, whose work was hailed by folks like Anthony Watts. That is until the BEST team showed that GISS, CRU, and NCDC were in fact solid methodologically, and that their temperature records had been validatedHome|BerkeleyEarth.org