Fighting Has No Place in Hockey
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I am sure I can say with certainty that I played, coached, or free lance reported more sports than you did, including boxing and martial arts. Physical contact is to be expected in many sports - but sheer violence for the enjoyment of a few people who like to see others hauled in ambulances is hardly entertaining and certainly not justifiable for level headed types.
How did it all turn out?
OK I'll repeat many points
a) there is fighting allowed in NHL hockey
b) the buildings are filled with people watching NHL hockey, and until those people
protest, and stay away by the thousands, because of fighting, it doesn't seem
that fighting will be stopped because of 'that' approach.
People do not buy expensive tickets to watch a 20 second fight sometime during
a game, that is ridiculous, but when a fight does break out, it does excite
everyone, including all of the players on the benches, I think that is just
a human reaction, which would happen anywhere there would be a fight, as that
seems to attract attention.
It seems people watching are not horrified by fighting, a fight comes then goes
and the game continues on.
c) The players, players association, and the NHL don't seem to be too worried about
fighting in their game.
d) Fighting is a very very small part of a game, a fight lasts a very short time, much less than a minute,
they break up, skate to the penalty box, put the ice bags on their hands, and sit it out for 5 minutes.
That is the rule, not the exception that gets reported on the news and in other headlines.
e) It seems to me, and correct me if i'm wrong, that the majority of the protest against
fighting being allowed in the NHL, are people who don't go to games.
f) Although fighting is still allowed, it has been toned down greatly in the last 20 years or so.
g) No bench clearing brawls allowed, and fights monitored very closely by officials, no fight
just goes on without being stopped if either player is in any trouble.
h) The myth that people go to NHL games to watch fights is false, the fighting is a tiny part of
a game, but the cost to attend a game is high, just doesn't make sense.
i) I have seen many injuries, some serious in the 60 or so years I have been going to NHL games,
and none of those serious injuries have been from fighting, maybe with the
exception of wayne mackie many years ago, and I can't remember if that was
fighting or stick swinging.
j) I am very conscious about the head shots and elbowing and intent to injure, but since shanahan
has come aboard, I feel very optimistic, because now the NHL has got a good hold on that problem,
and they are suspending players immediately, and repeat offenders are being suspended 'more' with
repeat offenses.
k) These are grown men, playing the game, officiating the game, coaching the game, managing the teams,
and running the NHL, SO, if all of the above people make a decision to allow fighting in the game,
what can anyone do about it.
l) I hate the 'staged fights', very tacky indeed, and I hope the NHL and the players association see that
and stop it, it is fairly new in the game, not sure why it is there, and it should go. It is not
a situation whereas two players get totally pissed off with each and break out in a fight, it is two
players who make an agreement before the puck is dropped, then in an organized manner, (after the
puck drops) drop the gloves and start fighting, really looks silly, and doesn't fit into the flow of
the game at all, at least a spontaneous fight arises from tempers flaring, a few punches are thrown,
officials break them up, and it is over.
So, what do you suggest be done because you don't want fighting in the game.
Do you think the government should step in and force them to ban fighting, or should the police
be at the games and come onto the ice and arrest fighters, or?
I would be fine without fighting, that is not what I enjoy as part of a hockey game, BUT if all of
the people who are the owners,managers,coaches,players,players association allow fighting, what
do you suggest be done, because you don't want it in the game.
I AM ONLY TALKING ABOUT PROFESSIONAL HOCKEY, NOT AMATEUR HOCKEY, AN ENTIRELY
DIFFERENT SUBJECT.
a) there is fighting allowed in NHL hockey
b) the buildings are filled with people watching NHL hockey, and until those people
protest, and stay away by the thousands, because of fighting, it doesn't seem
that fighting will be stopped because of 'that' approach.
People do not buy expensive tickets to watch a 20 second fight sometime during
a game, that is ridiculous, but when a fight does break out, it does excite
everyone, including all of the players on the benches, I think that is just
a human reaction, which would happen anywhere there would be a fight, as that
seems to attract attention.
It seems people watching are not horrified by fighting, a fight comes then goes
and the game continues on.
c) The players, players association, and the NHL don't seem to be too worried about
fighting in their game.
d) Fighting is a very very small part of a game, a fight lasts a very short time, much less than a minute,
they break up, skate to the penalty box, put the ice bags on their hands, and sit it out for 5 minutes.
That is the rule, not the exception that gets reported on the news and in other headlines.
e) It seems to me, and correct me if i'm wrong, that the majority of the protest against
fighting being allowed in the NHL, are people who don't go to games.
f) Although fighting is still allowed, it has been toned down greatly in the last 20 years or so.
g) No bench clearing brawls allowed, and fights monitored very closely by officials, no fight
just goes on without being stopped if either player is in any trouble.
h) The myth that people go to NHL games to watch fights is false, the fighting is a tiny part of
a game, but the cost to attend a game is high, just doesn't make sense.
i) I have seen many injuries, some serious in the 60 or so years I have been going to NHL games,
and none of those serious injuries have been from fighting, maybe with the
exception of wayne mackie many years ago, and I can't remember if that was
fighting or stick swinging.
j) I am very conscious about the head shots and elbowing and intent to injure, but since shanahan
has come aboard, I feel very optimistic, because now the NHL has got a good hold on that problem,
and they are suspending players immediately, and repeat offenders are being suspended 'more' with
repeat offenses.
k) These are grown men, playing the game, officiating the game, coaching the game, managing the teams,
and running the NHL, SO, if all of the above people make a decision to allow fighting in the game,
what can anyone do about it.
l) I hate the 'staged fights', very tacky indeed, and I hope the NHL and the players association see that
and stop it, it is fairly new in the game, not sure why it is there, and it should go. It is not
a situation whereas two players get totally pissed off with each and break out in a fight, it is two
players who make an agreement before the puck is dropped, then in an organized manner, (after the
puck drops) drop the gloves and start fighting, really looks silly, and doesn't fit into the flow of
the game at all, at least a spontaneous fight arises from tempers flaring, a few punches are thrown,
officials break them up, and it is over.
So, what do you suggest be done because you don't want fighting in the game.
Do you think the government should step in and force them to ban fighting, or should the police
be at the games and come onto the ice and arrest fighters, or?
I would be fine without fighting, that is not what I enjoy as part of a hockey game, BUT if all of
the people who are the owners,managers,coaches,players,players association allow fighting, what
do you suggest be done, because you don't want it in the game.
I AM ONLY TALKING ABOUT PROFESSIONAL HOCKEY, NOT AMATEUR HOCKEY, AN ENTIRELY
DIFFERENT SUBJECT.
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If it's "allowed" Talloola it's the only thing I can think of that's allowed that you get penalized for. :smile:
So you're skating along the ice competing to push a puck into a goal.
A member of the opposition whisks by keeling your jawbone with the back of his stick, pretending incompetence at stick-handling.
At which point he could be put into a chamber like the US military uses to get people over PTSD by letting them relive the experience over and over again until it does not hurt anymore... or...
... we can pick him up and hurl him into a penalty box.
A member of the opposition whisks by keeling your jawbone with the back of his stick, pretending incompetence at stick-handling.
At which point he could be put into a chamber like the US military uses to get people over PTSD by letting them relive the experience over and over again until it does not hurt anymore... or...
... we can pick him up and hurl him into a penalty box.
head shots, elbowing and many other intended illegal hits to a player are not allowed, and heavily
penalized.
In my opinion those are the hits to be concerned about, they can seriously injure, and cause concussions.
I guess one could say that nothing is allowed that one gets penalized for,
but happens anyway.(thanks for pointing my wording out, did sound silly)
a fight is an automatic 5 minute fighting penalty, guess that is put in there to let them sit for
five minutes and cool off.
how dramatic can one get, 'make a movie'. lol