Harper declares “new day” in relationship with First Nations

dumpthemonarchy

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It kind of bugs me when I have to agree with Harper but he is not a stupid man and he just might be on to something. The Indian Act is seriously flawed but we have been creaking along with it for a long time and lately some things have been getting done. Now if Harper would have announced that he was scrapping the act and writing a new one we know that nothing would get done for at least the next 5 years while every lawyer in town would be looking for a way to profit from a rewrite. We also know that a one size fits all plan is not going to work either. So if both sides are committed to work together there is at least a 50% chance that he can make things work.

There's a 50% chance that 50% of Indian bands will get some success from Harper's plan, which will likely not be much different from what they are already doing. If Harper's new plan means both sides will have to get bolder and demand results, that will be good. Because for one thing, the TB health clock is ticking and continued abject failure here is not a viable option as the media will beat on Harper and aboriginal leaders relentlessly if stagnation continues.
 

Cannuck

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What the dump doesn't get about BC is that the Indian Act is applied to aboriginal people who never signed any treaties here.

That kind of flies in the face of CB's argument all the handouts are based on treaty obligations. You must be a racist.
 

Cannuck

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That's not my argument. But then again, honesty is alway your first casualty.

Interesting. So now you are saying that treaty obligations are not responsible for all the handouts. I guess some of what I've been saying is starting to sink in.
 

MHz

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"Harper said his government had no plans to scrap the Indian Act, choosing instead to find “creative ways” to work within and outside the over 100 year-old legislation."

Didn't a 20 years court case just end a year ago or so. The Lawyers pocketed $100M and now the 'new and improved' gang rape of the First Nations going to hit PhaseII. (using taxpayer money of course) Why not throw it all out on the UN table as see what solutions 'are on the table' as suggested by all the member Nations, even Haiti? Perhaps they should add a big fat tax to any income they get that is off the Rez. Hit em hard, say about 80% that way when the Vatican and their counterparts including not just the Protestants sign the big fat check for all their sins (to many to mention) the Gov (somebody other than the taxpayers) gets to split a very hefty chunk of cash.

That about sum it up?


Interesting. So now you are saying that treaty obligations are not responsible for all the handouts. I guess some of what I've been saying is starting to sink in.
Are you aware how corrupt those 'handouts' are? (in that the end-user gets a trickle of what should be there and the ones who should get nothing but a small pension are, well ..... crooked to the core. The terms of the treaties (written by the Brits own hand) should be examined in the Hauge for meeting certain standards that are there to protect both parties) Having a Breitish Court hear cases is expensive and time consuming to the extent the bills were intentionally being inflated with the Courts help, perhaps they are looking for a seat as co-defendant.
 

CDNBear

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You can? Why don't you start off small, and just present a reasoned rebuttal first.

You might be something of a terror at your Justin Beiber forum. But here, you're just a lot of empty rhetoric and funny hot air.
 
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