And you hate Natives - First Nations - Aboriginals. You should get a life.
No justice in leniency shown to aboriginal offenders
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And you hate Natives - First Nations - Aboriginals. You should get a life.
A bit of reading: try from about a third the way down if you want to stick to just aboriginals and law - FNIP: Prospects for Aboriginal Justice in Canada>
"Return to custody
Overall, 47.4% of the sample was re-admitted to federal custody within one year of release -- 21.9% because of a conviction for a new offence. This high recidivism rate illustrates the relatively high-risk nature of the sample offenders. Cognitive skills training generally targets offenders at high risk of recidivism.
Roughly 44.5% of those who completed the program were re-admitted to custody (see Figure 1), compared with 50.1% of the waiting-list control group and 58.2% of those who dropped out of the program (17.3% of the overall sample). The difference (p<.05) between the program group and the control group represents an 11% reduction for those who completed the program." Correctional Service of Canada - FORUM on Corrections Research
Look at the graph about 2/3 of the way down the page here The Aboriginal Justice Strategy - JustResearch Issue 15
Sort of. As bear pointed out, there's less recidivism than with our system.
It's irrelevant what most Canadians think. But, although the crime RATE is going down slightly, the NUMBER of crimes is increasing (because of population increase). Not sure about the difference between violent and non-violent crimes or their rates).
"Return to custody
Overall, 47.4% of the sample was re-admitted to federal custody within one year of release -- 21.9% because of a conviction for a new offence. This high recidivism rate illustrates the relatively high-risk nature of the sample offenders. Cognitive skills training generally targets offenders at high risk of recidivism.
Roughly 44.5% of those who completed the program were re-admitted to custody (see Figure 1), compared with 50.1% of the waiting-list control group and 58.2% of those who dropped out of the program (17.3% of the overall sample). The difference (p<.05) between the program group and the control group represents an 11% reduction for those who completed the program." Correctional Service of Canada - FORUM on Corrections Research
Look at the graph about 2/3 of the way down the page here The Aboriginal Justice Strategy - JustResearch Issue 15
The people who pay the taxes, doesn't matter what they think? I wonder who pays for the aboriginal justice system? There is an AJS to help them to assimilate easier into society. It's a temporary measure. Canadians are obviously flexible in doing what is necessary to reduce violent crime.
Not really. The contract has been ratified.
What Aboriginal justice system? You mean Gladue? It comes from the MAA, right off the top.
Good grief, how dense can you get? I said it was irrelevant to the topic, not to Canada in general. people's thoughts have no influence over crime rates. DUH
Well go find out then.
Like I said, if the AJS works better, it works better. You said it didn't.
Why not make it un-temporary.
There is another kind?
I suspect that the restorative justice system works better in remote communities where the guilty party may be removed from his/her family and community than it does closer to cities where there is often less of a sense of community and family.
It worked quite well for the young lad that was left in my charge for a year, whose crime was committed in southern Ontario, though he lived in Northern Ontario.
In fact, the bulk of the kids that I have had contact with through Gladue, have had their charges stayed, withdrawn, or had their sentences stayed, because they came to the program, completed it and then stayed to mentor other youth.
I support the premise of the Gladue process, for first time youthful offenders. I've seen it work.
Uh, yeah.
The relatively intelligent but misguided ones. There are also the sleazy, nefarious, intelligent ones.
I think that can be worked around.
It matters what system is used because there has to be consistency and equality in the system. The problem is this, the Canadian system of justice is "the system". We will never adopt an aboriginal system, they are tweaking our system. Tweaking means temporary mnor adjustments which are acceptable due to distance, culture, language, wealth and other factors that increase public safety. Public safety, that means everyone in Canada and the world.
Are you refering to "In the public interest"?
If so, finding a system that better serves a portion of the populace, to prevent/decrease recidivism, IS in the public interest.
You didn't quite get the point. I'm not sure you ever will, so might as well forget it.
I don't think he understands.
Like so many others around here that are confounded by how the criminal legal system works.
There is no reason to adapt or change to anything the Canadian system of justic is the law of the land. Murder is murder, robbery is robbery. The Aboriginal Police force have to enforce the Canadian legal system unless laws are totally different in Canada. In the U.S. Native police forces have the same powers as State police within their reservations, even allowed to hot pursuit outside the reservation if needed. If they need extra help, they ask for it, unless it is a federal issue other police agency's stay out.
That's the understatement of the year.
Now I realize it's still January but I sincerely think you got a shot at the title with that one.
Um,you've caught me unawares. I actually haven't made that part up yet.
If we do go centerfold, you'll be okay with full monty right? lol.
It is a complicated idea for some, the criminal law is the same across the country. There is little evidence even the tweaks in the justice system are working for aboriginals as they continue to fill the jails because they keep committing the crimes so police keep charging them. People who make less money commit more crime and most aboriginals are poor and uneducated. Tweaks treat the symptom, not the cause. The cause is a lack of equality for aboriginals.
Which is why you don't get it.
There is?
There's more of the hateful, people keep pointing out.
That's one of the issues. It's about time you acknowledged that.