I'm sure it happens. The question is why anybody would want it. I certainly don't want the government (or anybody else for that matter) telling me who I can or can't sell my house or cabin to.
Privatizing Aboriginal Reserves
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I'm sure it happens. The question is why anybody would want it. I certainly don't want the government (or anybody else for that matter) telling me who I can or can't sell my house or cabin to.
Collectively as a tribe or nation within the Canadian nation. (Provinces like our States will have minimal of no control except through the National government.)
And many do.
I'd like to see autonomous First Nations as well, sadly I see no indication in the behavior of elected leaders, that would suggest it to be anything but disastrous.
There are servers for online gambling on some reserves in Quebec, that have staved off gov't intrusion. But the Feds still maintain a level of control that restricts internal FN legislation that is contrary to that of the RoC.
The Haudenosuanee have had an internationally recognized passport for quite sometime. Only recently was it challenged due to the fact that it didn't meet contemporary security features/requirements.
Several Nations that have not incorporated, or ceded sovereignty think so.
There is a massive difference between east and west. Which is the stumbling block for many here, that base their views solely on what they perceive in their respective province.
It is also the reason I ask these people which Nations are Canadian citizens, which aren't?
For some that claim superior problem solving skills, the basic questions of what Nations are sovereign and which aren't? Who recognizes the AFN and who doesn't? Who has incorporated, who has hasn't? Who has ceded full sovereignty? Who has had autonomous self governance for centuries? Seem problematic and contrary to their claims of problem solving skills, only exposes their simplistic ignorance.
If there is to be any discussion on how to remedy moving forward, the beginning is educating oneself on the complexity of the treaty system and what Nations, stand where within it (Not directed at you).
There is private ownership on reservations here.
Take Rama as an example (Because my wife is Anish and I have the best contemporary understanding of real property situations in that respect). People own the land under their own homes. If they choose to sell, under the Indian Act, it is to be sold to other Band members, or the council.
The council, can and has sold reserve land to non Native peoples, with Federal approval, as well as set up a leasing system that generates general income. As have many reservations in Ontario, and Quebec.
Incorrect, not the first time. They are considered nations, they aren't treated like fully autonomous Nations.
And erroneously interpreted by you. It's been proven time and time again, that the bulk of First Nations have met domestic and international standards, and have done so, since before Canada could.
Well I'm glad you now admit that they are Nations and should be treated as such.
How is it hey don't act like Nations?
To prevent the ability of corrupt councils, from exploiting poverty and a lack of education of the general populace. As well as to prevent the decimation of reserved lands.
In Ontario, casino's fall under the control of the OLG. It was negotiated, to prevent other reserves from building casino's. That reserves like Rama and Scugog Island would share their casino profits with other Nations in the area.
Taxes are a treaty negotiate element, and not applicable to all First Nations, in all treaties, across Canada.
I'd be surprised if you actually knew how many First nations have Canadian citizenship.
You keep putting the cart before the horse. Shouldn't the very first questions be, who is a sovereign and who is a Canadian citizen? Who recognizes the AFN and who doesn't? Who has incorporated, who has hasn't? Who has ceded full sovereignty, who has had autonomous self governance for centuries? That's the difference between you and I. When it comes to problem solving, I like to start at the beginning and work my way logically through the problem. It may be more difficult than the generalizations you use, but in the long run, I think the extra effort is worth it.
A question that has been fought to the SCoC, a few times now. And because of the complexity of the treaty system, will be again. There isn't blanket legislation that gives mineral rights to the individual Nations, that sit on them.
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That is the sad part, and if managed properly by the Nations that could bring so much income directly to them, which in turn provide tax's to Canada after all first Nations people are given full Canadian citizenship as well as keeping their own.
The influence of tree huggers with an agenda, on the perspectives of some FN's people, is part of the reason many reserves lose out on lucrative deals.
Given full Canadian citizenship? Many have no need of it. Some have even created Warrior societies to prevent it!
Thankfully this one is a go. With a mine going in, other business opportunities will out number mining jobs. Even something as simplistic as a tow truck or tire repair shop will do very well.
What do you mean when you say "within the Canadian nation"? Are you talking geographically?
I know my MO is to ask tough questions, your grasp of the obvious, is nothing less than breath taking. The fact that you just realized that that's my MO, is funny. But goes a long to way explaining why I find your claims and posts to be extremely entertaining and humourous.
Keep working on those problem solving skills, you might be able to answer my questions one day, instead of having to deflect/dodge.
Your continued examples of hypocrisy aside. I do, I will. Just like you'll stick to dodging them. Simply because you haven't clue one, where the problem begins, without fabrications, generalization and stereotyping.
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Perhaps it would also help if you don't keep asking the same stupid questions over and over again that have already been answered. That type of nonsense works when you are "debating" some people that eventually tire of the tactic and move on.
The only reason you claim they're stupid questions is, you can't answer them. Which is why you just lied about having answered them.
Maybe you should stick to your Justin Beiber forum. This adult conversation stuff seems to be over your head.
I have answered them. It's really not my fault if you don't like my answer. Maybe you can start a support group for special interest hacks that get publicly pwned. It might help you get over some of your embarrassment.
I'm well aware of your ability to make fallacious and oft delusional claims. It's been made perfectly clear, over and over.
What hasn't been made perfectly clear, not even in the slightest, are your claimed superior problem solving skills.
I look forward to more of your patented fallacious claims, and nothing of any relevance to the problems facing FN's, beyond that of which you formulate from conjecture and manure.
Can this Thread go back to the topic in the O. P. please.
The....whatever it is, between you two is....it's distracting
from the topic and has gotten old, at best.
The....whatever it is, between you two is....it's distracting
from the topic and has gotten old, at best.