Rex Murphy: Removing Julian Assange’s halo

Assange is responsible for a number of Innocent Deaths


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Machjo

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Was the data released from servers in The States', Canada's and several countries in the EU?

Who published it? Who in the chain of authority over that material in The States', Canada's and several countries in the EU. Why did that chain break? Who broke it? Who failed to monitor and maintain each and every link of that chain?

Who published it in The States', Canada's and several countries in the EU and is getting away with it?

Put everything back in the frying pan (including hookers and blow) and try as you might but none of it will ever sizzle and become a stir fry within the recipe of legal boundaries that is digestable.

Now there is a technical point that if Assange never set foot on US soil, then by definition he did not break any US laws. Then the question is whether he broke the laws of the country in which he was when he was committing those acts.
 

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Now there is a technical point that if Assange never set foot on US soil, then by definition he did not break any US laws. Then the question is whether he broke the laws of the country in which he was when he was committing those acts.

The US is funny that way - Example - A warrant is issued - Someone kidnaps the person from another country - takes him to the US - Guess what - He - the accused goes to trial - The guy that brought him in. The US does not care and does not lay charges - That is for the country that the accused was picked up from to proceed with.
Google Dog the Bounty Hunter - he did the same thing in Mexico and brought an accused back to the US for trial - Dog was extadited on request from Mexico - charges dismissed in Mexico.
And that is why he has such a big show.
 

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Now there is a technical point that if Assange never set foot on US soil, then by definition he did not break any US laws. Then the question is whether he broke the laws of the country in which he was when he was committing those acts.
It really doesn't matter if he broke any US laws. If they want to get him they will manufacture a reason. As Arlo Guthry said, "there is no discrimination and there is no hypocrisy because we will get anybody."
 

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It really doesn't matter if he broke any US laws. If they want to get him they will manufacture a reason. As Arlo Guthry said, "there is no discrimination and there is no hypocrisy because we will get anybody."

No they will use the law. Man that hate runs deep.
Now Assange is resposnisble for providing information that led to peoples deaths. He is innocent?? Is that your take on that?
 

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No they will use the law. Man that hate runs deep.
Yes, they will use the law, they will, however, manufacture a reason, like hookers and blow. And I could say you are an ass kisser for supporting their reign of terror under the BS title of War on Terror.
 

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It's rather funny that he would say, ''Well, they're informants so, if they get killed, they've got it coming to them. They deserve it.", and yet, he seems awfully concerned with preserving his own ass.
 

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It's rather funny that he would say, ''Well, they're informants so, if they get killed, they've got it coming to them. They deserve it.", and yet, he seems awfully concerned with preserving his own ass.
Personal survival is an overwhelming human motivator. Try drowning yourself. It is damn near impossible.
 

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Yes, they will use the law, they will, however, manufacture a reason, like hookers and blow. And I could say you are an ass kisser for supporting their reign of terror under the BS title of War on Terror.

No - Iraq i stated my opinion on that a number of times - Afghanistan - They should have gone in with enough troops to cut of Tora Bora - Rumsfeld turned that down.
Regardless, they should have packed up and hit the road out of there after that. It was Fuked before and they should have left it alone.

Call it a War on Terror, call it this, that or whatever. i know that there are wackos out there that would just love to kill like they did on 911.
You may have a differing opinion.
 

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No - Iraq i stated my opinion on that a number of times - Afghanistan - They should have gone in with enough troops to cut of Tora Bora - Rumsfeld turned that down.
Regardless, they should have packed up and hit the road out of there after that. It was Fuked before and they should have left it alone.

Call it a War on Terror, call it this, that or whatever. i know that there are wackos out there that would just love to kill like they did on 911.
You may have a differing opinion.
And therein lies the crux of the problem. 10 second sound bites. We are trained to look at microscopic events and not connect the dots. There is a reason why people are willing to die to get back at the US. That reason is called foreign policy. Iran's hatred of the US goes back to the Shaw. Interference in the internal affairs of the middle east are at the root of all Muslim and Arab animosity toward the US and Britain and now, with our involvement in Afghanistan and Libya, Canada. But I can understand why people can't see past their noses. We have been conditioned that way on purpose. That is why I don't have a TV, read news papers (an oxymoron) or magazines. You should try it some time. It would help you see a little clearer.
 

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Yes, they will use the law, they will, however, manufacture a reason, like hookers and blow. And I could say you are an ass kisser for supporting their reign of terror under the BS title of War on Terror.


I understand that Assange isn't challenging the notion that he had sex with those women... Doesn't sound to me like the hookers have been manufactured.
 

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And therein lies the crux of the problem. 10 second sound bites. We are trained to look at microscopic events and not connect the dots. There is a reason why people are willing to die to get back at the US. That reason is called foreign policy. Iran's hatred of the US goes back to the Shaw. Interference in the internal affairs of the middle east are at the root of all Muslim and Arab animosity toward the US and Britain and now, with our involvement in Afghanistan and Libya, Canada. But I can understand why people can't see past their noses. We have been conditioned that way on purpose. That is why I don't have a TV, read news papers (an oxymoron) or magazines. You should try it some time. It would help you see a little clearer.

If it was not the US it would be Russia or France. Yes the Us is not guilt free - It is pure power politics.

And Religious fukheads had nothing to do with it.
Nor the way the people are treated, taught to hate, taught to exact vengeance, taught that honor is not to be sullied, the Jews are the problems, oh yes and the Great Satan, almost forgot the mantra.

No I guess everything wrong with those countires is the fault of the US.

And learn about Iran and the US - Religion on the Iranian side is used by the bucketload. They have sent hit squads to a variety of countries to kill Iranians. Jesus, blame the US for that to.

Everything these countries do that is morally repugnant, wrong, inhumane - Well God Damm it is the US again.

Do you not tire of that old record playing.
 

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I understand that Assange isn't challenging the notion that he had sex with those women... Doesn't sound to me like the hookers have been manufactured.
It is a BS charge but it would be better to be in a Swedish jail than a in a US jail under false pretenses. I do recall that he did deny the charge and was released because the charges were false. Why else would he go willingly now if he hadn't weighed the possibilities of time in Sweden verses time in the US. He knows damn well that he could not get a fair trial because any charges the US came up with would be BS and they have already convicted him in the press. Look how many on here have already convicted him.

If it was not the US it would be Russia or France. Yes the Us is not guilt free - It is pure power politics.

And Religious fukheads had nothing to do with it.
Nor the way the people are treated, taught to hate, taught to exact vengeance, taught that honor is not to be sullied, the Jews are the problems, oh yes and the Great Satan, almost forgot the mantra.

No I guess everything wrong with those countires is the fault of the US.

And learn about Iran and the US - Religion on the Iranian side is used by the bucketload. They have sent hit squads to a variety of countries to kill Iranians. Jesus, blame the US for that to.

Everything these countries do that is morally repugnant, wrong, inhumane - Well God Damm it is the US again.

Do you not tire of that old record playing.
Ah, you do see the truth, you just don't want to accept it.
 

Goober

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It is a BS charge but it would be better to be in a Swedish jail than a in a US jail under false pretenses. I do recall that he did deny the charge and was released because the charges were false. Why else would he go willingly now if he hadn't weighed the possibilities of time in Sweden verses time in the US. He knows damn well that he could not get a fair trial because any charges the US came up with would be BS and they have already convicted him in the press. Look how many on here have already convicted him.


Ah, you do see the truth, you just don't want to accept it.

No i see that you have found him innocent yet the records of the document releases were made public by himself. He has hung himself. Yet you fail to see that.
Go thru Google and look for his press releases and interviews. He hung himself.
I did not have to convict him, he did it himself.

And if a indictment is brought by a Grand Jury then the US will follow thru.

So tell me why he is innocent?
 

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It is a BS charge but it would be better to be in a Swedish jail than a in a US jail under false pretenses. I do recall that he did deny the charge and was released because the charges were false. Why else would he go willingly now if he hadn't weighed the possibilities of time in Sweden verses time in the US. He knows damn well that he could not get a fair trial because any charges the US came up with would be BS and they have already convicted him in the press. Look how many on here have already convicted him.

My understanding is that Assange was fighting extradition from the UK to Sweden to face those charges. If memory serves, he initially fled and 'spoke' through his UK lawyer stating that he didn't want to face trial in Sweden because the prosecutor was a known feminist that would not provide a fair representation of the events
 

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My understanding is that Assange was fighting extradition from the UK to Sweden to face those charges. If memory serves, he initially fled and 'spoke' through his UK lawyer stating that he didn't want to face trial in Sweden because the prosecutor was a known feminist that would not provide a fair representation of the events

Rape charges were laid due to the fact that while he was having sex with the women they asked him to stop.He did not, then it is rape. There was more than 1 women and more than 1 charge.
But it is all a US Plot.
 

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Freedom of speech is a virtue of the right????? Really? Surprising to me, I'm not "of the right" and freedom of speech is a virtue that I hold quite dear.

That's because the double-speak and hypocrisy of the media is deluding you.

The true right value freedom. The left value control.

You might be right. But in all honesty, it would be quite difficult to prove any direct connection to Assange's actions.

And the U.S. admits wikileaks has not been a threat.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/19/wikileaks-white-house-state-department
 
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