Conservatives cut healthcare funding after 2018

petros

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This is part of the problem as well.

Provinces like Alberta and B.C. already have natural resources that will allow them to cope with the healthcare demand if it becomes tied to economic growth. Other provinces, that aren't lucky enough to be able to tap into these resources will incur an increasing debt.

It's unfair to favour the people in those provinces who are simply fortunate enough to be sitting on top of a gold mine to the detriment of the other provinces.

No negotiations with the provinces are underway to try and compensate for this unilateral demand.
My tax and resources dollars investing in my future is a detriment to "other" provinces? **** 'em! Get off your asses and utilize your resorces which are human resources and human capital.
 

mentalfloss

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My tax and resources dollars investing in my future is a detriment to "other" provinces? **** 'em! Get off your asses and utilize your resorces which are human resources and human capital.

So, basically, you're the new Durry.
 

mentalfloss

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Not at all. Durry doesn't offer solutions.

You both blame other provinces for all of their financial burdens, and you both think the resolution is to punish those provinces for things that are out of their control.
 

petros

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Punish? Hell no. I want people to get off their asses and emigrate to the work like real men do if they can't do that then start digging some ditches and make themselves useful and quit bitching about immigrants who will move to where the jobs are.

I'm not their dad. Why should I support them?
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Instead of burying $80K stainless steel hips and knees with dead people why not hack them out and use them again? That'll save big.

Yes, that would certainly warm the Conservatives to the Canadian Public and play right into the mantra of the Liberals and NDP.:lol:
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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When Paul Martin cut transfer payments he was hailed as a hero and a financial genius while the Provinces were left to eat the sh!t sandwich. Flaherty increases transfer payments and he's horrible.

Makes sense to me.
 

petros

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I'd rather have a used hip installed in a month or two rather than wait 5 years for a new one when the budget allows.
 

JLM

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Thank you JLM.

It's good to know that we at least have some sane conservatives on this board.

Not a Conservative, not a Liberal, not an N.D.P. Mentalfloss- just for what works, never believed in spending money I don't have or borrowing at ridiculous rates. :lol:
 

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Not a Conservative, not a Liberal, not an N.D.P. Mentalfloss- just for what works, never believed in spending money I don't have or borrowing at ridiculous rates. :lol:

Sorry I meant conservative in the literal sense - not partisanship.
 

JLM

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This is part of the problem as well.

Provinces like Alberta and B.C. already have natural resources that will allow them to cope with the healthcare demand if it becomes tied to economic growth. Other provinces, that aren't lucky enough to be able to tap into these resources will incur an increasing debt.

It's unfair to favour the people in those provinces who are simply fortunate enough to be sitting on top of a gold mine to the detriment of the other provinces.

No negotiations with the provinces are underway to try and compensate for this unilateral demand.

Natural Resources are ONE way of generating money, manufacturing and providing services are others!
 

mentalfloss

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Natural Resources are ONE way of generating money, manufacturing and providing services are others!

Very true.

But a lot of manufacturing is dependent on resource extraction. In our case, too many jobs in one sector can negatively affect another.

This is besides the point though, because the government rightly balances provinces with equalization pay.

Still, it would be funny to see the clamour when Ontario receives even more equalization to balance healthcare debt because Alberta essentially is our federal economy now.
 

JLM

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I'm happy to be of service:

tobacco products (to help pay for lung cancer treatments),
drinking alcohol (to pay to treat alcoholism and other alcohol-borne illnesses),
petrol (to help pay for asthma-related illnesses especially in urban areas),
high-cholesterol-laden foods and drinks (to help pay for heart disease treatments),

etc.

The first three are already taxed to the hilt, gasoline will just increase prices for necessities like food. :lol:

Cannuck;1522436 JLM is a Dipper[/QUOTE said:
And Cannuck is an A$$hole! :lol:
 

JLM

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Interesting math. That means because I asked for a 15% raise but got zero this year I took a 15% pay cut? Wait until I tell the bean counter that one.
Did you finish high school yet?

While I agree 100% what you say, I can see where he's coming from- this year you earn $100 each dollar worth 100 cents, next year you earn $115 each dollar worth 98 cents. While there is merit in his argument, it's not realistic. Inflation is compounding and eventually you end up having to earn/spend $million dollars a years just to exist! South American countries and Rwanda have been through that. Of course it's the poor and destitute that are the hardest hit. The ones we are supposed to be trying to protect. :lol:

If you and God go skiing and break both your legs don't come running to me.

How do you run on two broken legs? :lol:
 

Machjo

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The first three are already taxed to the hilt, gasoline will just increase prices for necessities like food. :lol:

Right, but as an alternative source of income, it would allow the government to eventually lower income taxes once the federal debt is paid to compensate for the higher food prices. And if you buy more lcoally-grown food, you might actually come out on top. if all your foods come from afar, well, then watch the food bill soar.

I'd like to see tax rebates for those taking the initiative for living healthy.

Increase the tax on cholesterol and you could eventually scrap the GST once the debt is paid off.
 

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This is just situation the Tories want to briing in the two-tiered health care and if you can afford the insurance, just make sure you can get the heath care you NEED and not what the insurance company OFFER. Secondly, if your provinces can't give the health care you need then move to a province that can...probably out west to British Columbia or Alberta! The Feds and the provinces started out at 50/50 and now its 20/80 and they they want to go down to 3% of the GDP?? So if we can't afford health care how can we afford jail and jets? Oh yeah, they need the jails for when Canadains start to protest, they dump in the jails. Many people died in Ontario when Harris messed with the health care there now the nation has Harper, how many will he let die?