Alberta passes .05% law that was just declared unconstitutional in BC

Cannuck

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Cannuck just happens to think we should all drive a highway at the same speed (meaning that because he likes to drive at 120 khm., I should).

One would think you would get tired of me pointing out how wrong you are but I guess you are just a sucker for punishment. I don't think we all need to drive at the same speed nor do I think it has to be 120 kph. I'm merely pointing out how your one size fits all approach to road safety doesn't work. One could argue that it may work if we had unlimited resources so we could put a police cruiser on every corner but that isn't realistic. Unlike you, I like to deal with reality and the reality is that we need to target our resources where they would do the most good. In the context of this thread, it could be argued that it is in focusing on those people that are the most hazardous which aren't people blowing at 0.08.
 

CDNBear

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CB is a fool. He thinks having vehicles traveling on a highway at varying speeds makes for a safer highway.
I do? That came from your link, you're the one that cited the Autobahn as some sort of proof JLM's contention was nonsense, not me. I simply showed how the facts you provided, supported JLM (when you don't cherry pick one component).

I knew you didn't understand what you posted.

I can understand how an ego as fragile as yours would need to make stuff up, and ignore the bulk of any post that simply showed how follish you can be. Instead of just concede to an error.
 
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One would think you would get tired of me pointing out how wrong you are but I guess you are just a sucker for punishment. I don't think we all need to drive at the same speed nor do I think it has to be 120 kph. I'm merely pointing out how your one size fits all approach to road safety doesn't work. One could argue that it may work if we had unlimited resources so we could put a police cruiser on every corner but that isn't realistic. Unlike you, I like to deal with reality and the reality is that we need to target our resources where they would do the most good. In the context of this thread, it could be argued that it is in focusing on those people that are the most hazardous which aren't people blowing at 0.08.

Yep, when it comes to enacting laws one size DOES fit all- and it has to be done to cover the L.C.D...... otherwise the weakest. I'm sure I can drive at 160 kmh with a mickey of rum under my belt, but would you want everyone doing that? Or maybe each law should be broken down into 5 categories and each person assigned to a category an then macho guys like yourself could be assigned to category one and the rest of us underlings could be assigned further down the scale to match our substandard intelligence and physical prowess!
 

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One would think you would get tired of me pointing out how wrong you are but I guess you are just a sucker for punishment. I don't think we all need to drive at the same speed nor do I think it has to be 120 kph. I'm merely pointing out how your one size fits all approach to road safety doesn't work. One could argue that it may work if we had unlimited resources so we could put a police cruiser on every corner but that isn't realistic. Unlike you, I like to deal with reality and the reality is that we need to target our resources where they would do the most good. In the context of this thread, it could be argued that it is in focusing on those people that are the most hazardous which aren't people blowing at 0.08.

Most serious accidents ocurr under good to excellent driving conditions - Bad weather people pay more attention - Sunny day, sun shining, people get complacent.
 

CDNBear

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Just as I suspected...

 

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The ONLY way to stop DUI is to adopt a European style enforcement program. Driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol is considered as an attempt to kill others.

First Offense, the vehicle you are driving is impounded for 60 days (at YOUR expense and it doesn't matter WHO it belongs to). You go to jail for 30 days, and your drivers license is suspended for 1 year. You must attend regular classes, for several months on drug and alcohol abuse, and you will see a probation officer for at least one year.

Second Offense: You go to jail for 6 months (NO EXCEPTION AND YOU DO THE ENTIRE 6 MONTHS). 5 years probation, with weekly meetings with a probation officer. The vehicle you are driving is impounded for one year at your expense (if it's a rental car, you also pay one years vehicle rental, etc.) No person that lives at your address is allowed to have any vehicle registered at all.. They confiscate the license plates, and if anyone is discovered to be driving a vehicle, they CONFISCATE THE VEHICLE.).

Third Offense: 5 YEARS in prison. ON PAROLE FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. A LIFETIME ban of driving any vehicle. No person that lives at your address is ever allowed to have a vehicle of any type, or a driving license.

Fourth Offense: LIFE IN PRISON FOR ATTEMPTED MURDER, 20 YEARS MINIMUM JAIL TIME.

They take driving under the influence VERY seriously. Nobody would let someone drive their car, if they have even had 1 or 2 drinks. That's where the concept of a designated driver came from. Nobody would loan a car to anyone with a drunk driving conviction, nobody would condone it, it is considered a VERY serious offense. Getting drunk is totally acceptable, but you either have a designated driver, or you call a cab. NO EXCEPTIONS.

And, THEIR BLOOD ALCOHOL LEVELS BEGIN AT .05 AND GO downward in some countries. In the Scandinavian countries, ANY DETECTABLE alcohol at all is considered "driving while impaired".

It's bout time that our society take drunk driving seriously. Anyone that gets behind the wheel while impaired is flat out guilty of attempted murder.
 

Cannuck

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The ONLY way to stop DUI is to adopt a European style enforcement program. Driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol is considered as an attempt to kill others.

That's too expensive here in Canada. There are too many miles of road per driver to effectively police it after people get behind the wheel. It's an option if you feel (like some people) that cost is irrelevant.