Muppet Propoganda

WLDB

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Nothing says "anti-corporate agenda" than a major Hollywood blockbuster financed by some of the most profitable corporations in the US.

They should be going after the Smurfs for being Communists. Papa Smurf looks a lot like Stalin.
 

Cannuck

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The amazing thing is not that Faux thinks Disney is so left wing, it's that so many people think these morons at Faux are credible.
 

Cliffy

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Perhaps the next Muppet movie should go after the religious right and their brainwashing of kids with their hateful nonsense.
 

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Anytime FOX comes out with any position it just reinforces my feelings that the Murdock's should all be in front of a real Judge facing some real charges backed up by some real evidence. But their organ isn't the only one at work in the US. Look a US News and World Report, Time and other media.
 

Cliffy

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Anytime FOX comes out with any position it just reinforces my feelings that the Murdock's should all be in front of a real Judge facing some real charges backed up by some real evidence. But their organ isn't the only one at work in the US. Look a US News and World Report, Time and other media.
I think I know which organ you are talking about.
 

CDNBear

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When the message goes over your head, blame the messenger.

Did anybody even watch the video?

If you're smart enough to filter out the spin, there is a reasonable message in there about the messages sent to kids via films marketed specifically towards them.
 

Cannuck

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If you're smart enough to filter out the spin, there is a reasonable message in there about the messages sent to kids via films marketed specifically towards them.

Absolutely! When the largest media conglomerate in the world sends a message to kids, obviously it would be how big corporations are bad. Is it really any wonder why you are just so damn entertaining? Talk about over ones head.


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CDNBear

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Absolutely! When the largest media conglomerate in the world sends a message to kids, obviously it would be how big corporations are bad. Is it really any wonder why you are just so damn entertaining? Talk about over ones head.


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Speaking of over ones head...

Maybe you can point out where I specifically mentioned the Muppet movie in my post?

This should prove to be entertaining.
 

Cannuck

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Speaking of over ones head...

Maybe you can point out where I specifically mentioned the Muppet movie in my post?

This should prove to be entertaining.

 

SLM

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Well, I just watched the video (man I hate it when grown adults argue like children, this is why I don't watch television news). But have to say, rhetoric aside, they are correct. I'm not a fan of major corporations either, but there is definitely an ideology at play here. Has been for years, whether the evil villan is the big polluter or the big oil company. It's about the evil of greed, which in and of itself is not a bad moral lesson to be sending to children. But the way they portray it is with a very adult ideology.

Whether I agree or disagree with how it's being presented and what's being presented, there's no denying the bias is definitely there.
 

CDNBear

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Propoganda????
I think propaganda is a tad harsh a word for it.

It's about the evil of greed, which in and of itself is not a bad moral lesson to be sending to children.
If it's benign. But between movies and the far more aggressive and less benign, cartoons and youth shows, there are many messages that really shouldn't be meant to target children.

From body image to consumerism, these messages are troublesome. Sadly with the TV being a parent to far to many kids, there isn't anyone to temper or filter.

This is why, for good or bad, we just banned certain cartoons, and avoided certain movies, with content we believed sent our kids the wrong message.
 

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When the majority of parents use TV and movies to babysit their kids, it is no wonder that they are used to promote whatever the corporate sponsors deem is of benefit to them. Bear, you are a rare breed of parent for filtering out stuff you feel is inappropriate. Too bad there is not a lot more like you.
 

SLM

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I think propaganda is a tad harsh a word for it.

I agree, propaganda is the spin of one side of the ideological debate. Excess greed being solely the purview of the corporation is the spin of the other side.

If it's benign. But between movies and the far more aggressive and less benign, cartoons and youth shows, there are many messages that really shouldn't be meant to target children.

From body image to consumerism, these messages are troublesome. Sadly with the TV being a parent to far to many kids, there isn't anyone to temper or filter.

Right, if it's benign. For the most part I think it's the sheer volume that takes it to a level where it cannot be considered benign. There are messages, messages, messages everywhere and our kids are bombarded with them. I'd lump targeted children advertising directly in with the movies and cartoons. Everybody wants a piece of our kids, hell everyone wants a piece of us.

This is why, for good or bad, we just banned certain cartoons, and avoided certain movies, with content we believed sent our kids the wrong message.

Parents have to do what parents have to do.
 

CDNBear

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When the majority of parents use TV and movies to babysit their kids, it is no wonder that they are used to promote whatever the corporate sponsors deem is of benefit to them.
We were in a store in Orillia the other day. There was a kid, all of 8 years old, talking to his dad about what he did that morning on Call of Duty.

The message isn't always corporate. Sometimes it's just violence. I may be an old prude, but I just don't think a child of roughly 8, is capable of processing that level of violence.

This is why we banned Power Rangers, and a couple other shows when the boys were young. Video games were pretty much nonexistent, I think they rot the brain.

Bear, you are a rare breed of parent for filtering out stuff you feel is inappropriate. Too bad there not a lot more like you.
Thanx Cliffy.

Right, if it's benign. For the most part I think it's the sheer volume that takes it to a level where it cannot be considered benign. There are messages, messages, messages everywhere and our kids are bombarded with them. I'd lump targeted children advertising directly in with the movies and cartoons. Everybody wants a piece of our kids, hell everyone wants a piece of us.
Tell me about it. Especially this time of year. I want I want I want, is all most parents hear. Between advertising and peer pressure. I don't know what's worse, lol.