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petros

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When is Tata going to make a 1/2t? Or should I keep my bail out free 2012 F150?

I wonder if bail out free Ford union employees invested in GM too?
 

captain morgan

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GM's previous management was great at taking risks, assuming consumers would buy massive SUV's perpetually.

People still are buying SUV's.. But understand that the risk exposure gets bigger and bigger as the costs increase.

Petros brings up a good point on this. Why can Tata build and sell a car for $2,500 (I believe that this is the price for their cheap model) and that would not even come close to the cost of materials & installation of the interior of a Ford or GM?

North American mfgrs aren't competing directly with Tata, but the principle exists in terms of competition with Honda, Hyundia, Toyota, etc... If Petros wants "good old fashioned profit sharing", he had better be prepared to accept his share of good old fashioned risk as well as contribute a good old fashioned effort in representing fair inputs and productivity.
 

petros

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Why did Tata need your and my money to set up a $2500 car line?

I wonder if bail out free Ford union employees invested in GM and Fiat/Tata too?

How did Ford manage to not need bail outs Captain?
 

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Petros brings up a good point on this. Why can Tata build and sell a car for $2,500 (I believe that this is the price for their cheap model) and that would not even come close to the cost of materials & installation of the interior of a Ford or GM?
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If you have looked at that Tata car, you would see how it's done. It's a piece of garbage that couldn't possibly meet North American safety standards. It's everything you would expect a $2,500 car to be.
 

petros

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If you have looked at that Tata car, you would see how it's done. It's a piece of garbage that couldn't possibly meet North American safety standards. It's everything you would expect a $2,500 car to be.
Didn't you know? It's cheaper to hire robots in India.
 

DurkaDurka

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People still are buying SUV's.. But understand that the risk exposure gets bigger and bigger as the costs increase.

Petros brings up a good point on this. Why can Tata build and sell a car for $2,500 (I believe that this is the price for their cheap model) and that would not even come close to the cost of materials & installation of the interior of a Ford or GM?

North American mfgrs aren't competing directly with Tata, but the principle exists in terms of competition with Honda, Hyundia, Toyota, etc... If Petros wants "good old fashioned profit sharing", he had better be prepared to accept his share of good old fashioned risk as well as contribute a good old fashioned effort in representing fair inputs and productivity.

People are still buying SUV's but generally not the 6 litre- V8 monstrosities leading into the recession.

Where can I buy a TATA in Canada?
 

Tonington

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GM's previous management was great at taking risks, assuming consumers would buy massive SUV's perpetually.

Yep, they weren't risk averse...sex, nuts, and retard strong. Sell them big SUV's!

You can buy a Jaguar from them apparently but I don't see anything for their TATA line of cars in Canada.

I doubt the Tata would meet our highway standards.
 

petros

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I think Tata is getting handouts for their iron ore mines in Labrador now.
Yes they are. It's nice to know Canadian metals can be shipped clear across the globe for robots in India to make cars.

Talk about something being "on your nickel" huh?
 

captain morgan

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You can buy a Jaguar from them apparently but I don't see anything for their TATA line of cars in Canada.

I'm not suggesting that Tata cars are suitable (safety or practically) for Canada, but the question remains, why is there such a divide in the costs?

Answer that question and you can pass it along to Petros who is questioning why the N. American mfgrs are looking to India for the ops.
 

DurkaDurka

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I'm not suggesting that Tata cars are suitable (safety or practically) for Canada, but the question remains, why is there such a divide in the costs?

Answer that question and you can pass it along to Petros who is questioning why the N. American mfgrs are looking to India for the ops.

My hunch is they have far less regulations (not always a good thing, remember Union Carbide?), labour is dirt cheap and India has a booming middle class with all the Canadian jobs we shipped over there.