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Because it's pretty nutty. Not everything in the bible is mean to be interpreted literally.
You are on a long journey like looking for the Holy Grail itself. The Bible is made up
of steadfast events and others that were meant to be symbolism's that everyone now
takes as literal. Not all passages in the Bible were meant to be literal. These were
examples and stories to be passed on to people who could not read or write.
The four books of the Christian Bible don't even match up because there was a
political fight for control of the Church and the Scripture ended up the great compromise.
There are several books of the Bible that never made the main event and they would
also be at odds with some of the four books passages that made the main stage.
If you really want to understand some of this, look at the history and the religious drama
that surrounded the period before reading anything, it is interesting in and of itself and
provides a backdrop to understanding the truth, the myths, the alterations and the
outright changes.
I know there will be a response from those who spent their lives washed in the blood as
it were. I was raised a Catholic and at one time could quote lots of this stuff until I started
thinking for myself of course. I also began to read beyond the Bible and listen to other
opinions and positions. Becoming a new Christian comes with a lot of challenges and one
really must be up to the task of not only learning, but understanding what is being said
and how to ask questions and don't be afraid to express your doubts. When you get to
this point you will find out there are many different kinds of Christians. Some live their
Faith daily, some are Sunday morning believers (wolves in sheep's clothing) and then
there are those haven't had an original thought or question in years they just believe
everything they are told, and those people are the ones to avoid.
Good luck, you are on a interesting road with many twists and turns with all kinds of versions
of the truth, with only sketchy facts as a compass. Then there are those who subscribe to
the words of PT Barnum loosely translated there's one born every minute. Myself, I am
somewhere in the middle of the belief system. I wonder and question a lot of things but I am
just mean spirited enough to not let go of the thought that some of these really bad folks
will get theirs in the end, that thought is just too good to pass up.
I hope this helps.
of steadfast events and others that were meant to be symbolism's that everyone now
takes as literal. Not all passages in the Bible were meant to be literal. These were
examples and stories to be passed on to people who could not read or write.
The four books of the Christian Bible don't even match up because there was a
political fight for control of the Church and the Scripture ended up the great compromise.
There are several books of the Bible that never made the main event and they would
also be at odds with some of the four books passages that made the main stage.
If you really want to understand some of this, look at the history and the religious drama
that surrounded the period before reading anything, it is interesting in and of itself and
provides a backdrop to understanding the truth, the myths, the alterations and the
outright changes.
I know there will be a response from those who spent their lives washed in the blood as
it were. I was raised a Catholic and at one time could quote lots of this stuff until I started
thinking for myself of course. I also began to read beyond the Bible and listen to other
opinions and positions. Becoming a new Christian comes with a lot of challenges and one
really must be up to the task of not only learning, but understanding what is being said
and how to ask questions and don't be afraid to express your doubts. When you get to
this point you will find out there are many different kinds of Christians. Some live their
Faith daily, some are Sunday morning believers (wolves in sheep's clothing) and then
there are those haven't had an original thought or question in years they just believe
everything they are told, and those people are the ones to avoid.
Good luck, you are on a interesting road with many twists and turns with all kinds of versions
of the truth, with only sketchy facts as a compass. Then there are those who subscribe to
the words of PT Barnum loosely translated there's one born every minute. Myself, I am
somewhere in the middle of the belief system. I wonder and question a lot of things but I am
just mean spirited enough to not let go of the thought that some of these really bad folks
will get theirs in the end, that thought is just too good to pass up.
I hope this helps.
I can appreciate your opinion and will not judge you or call your belief system "nutty". We can simply agree to disagree. I do, however wonder about the divorce rate today as it relates directly to what I just shared. If women could see how important it is to team up with their partners, perhaps the rate would drop. Your thoughts?
God made women to be a helper? Give me a break, this is the stuff of those
promise keepers of the washed in the blood crowd. God made two sexes so
they could nurture children and prepare them for adulthood It would and should
be God made women as full partners otherwise the whole structure of society
would fail.
It should be remembered that Mary the girlfriend of Christ was not made a
prostitute until the 12Th century under Pope Gregory, as he was hell bent on curbing
the powers of women in society.
As for the experiment if it was Gods invention the man woman thing it failed because
men abused their power and women spoke up and decided to demand their same
rights in society that are afforded all citizens and that is a good thing.
promise keepers of the washed in the blood crowd. God made two sexes so
they could nurture children and prepare them for adulthood It would and should
be God made women as full partners otherwise the whole structure of society
would fail.
It should be remembered that Mary the girlfriend of Christ was not made a
prostitute until the 12Th century under Pope Gregory, as he was hell bent on curbing
the powers of women in society.
As for the experiment if it was Gods invention the man woman thing it failed because
men abused their power and women spoke up and decided to demand their same
rights in society that are afforded all citizens and that is a good thing.
You probably don't have that option yet, I see you're a nominee member.
All things come with time, my son.
Marriage as an institution is failing because teh nuclear family is un-natural. We have always been tribal beings living in extended families, but the nuclear family only came into existence after the industrial revolution. The stress of daily life when there are only two (or one) to raise a family is too much for the human emotional system to cope with. Of course, that is a generalization and some do somehow manage to survive the process and make it work, but I'm sure you would find that the majority of divorces happen after the nest is empty.
1. Jesus named her a prostitute long before Pope Gregory was even conceived.
2. God does not need to experiment, He knows all things.
3. The bible is to be interpreted literally (factually), historically and culturally. Finally and most importantly IMO; spiritually or as a whole message.
4. The message? We are all sinners by nature and need to be reconciled with God. Look at the very first murder for example; Cain slew Abel because of jealousy. God approved Abel's "blood" sacrifice and rejected Cain's vegetables. Isaac and Ishmael represent 2 brothers, one of promise and of sin (disbelief). Throughout the bible (old testament included) we see how quickly we turn to sin (while Moses was on the mount, etc.) and how God ordained the opposite. The Jews know that they are sinners and atone yearly with a sacrifice lamb. To this day, Isaac (Israel) and Ishmael (Arab nations) are at war with one another. Keep your eye on Israel and you will see that the end is near. Repent before it's too late!
Interesting thoughts. Thank you for sharing.
Mary was Jesus lover and mother of his child.
Taking the bible literally is as nutty as your avatar. It was and is a metaphor for life. It is based on the mythologies of Sumer, Egypt, Babylon and Assyria (possibly Hindu texts). Taken literally, it is not much more than a bad horror story.
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You remind me of the obese person who refuses to get on the scale. Admitting to the sinful nature is indeed a difficult pill to swallow but hey, would you rather die from the disease or admit to the cure?
Yeah, if he died for our sins, the least we can do is sin, so he didn't die in vain.
One important thing to remember - The Bible is not meant to box you in - It is there to open your eyes and to live accordingly.
Do not as many recent converts do - Get Religion - To the point that all else is excluded - That is not what the Bible teaches.
Me I have a hard enough time with the Big 10.
And yes people on here will assist you in your quest for answers. But you have to make your own mind up.
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Now why is it that those that Git religion lower themselves to insult those that have other Religious beliefs.
All that does is give you a bad rep - and those you come into contact with will want Fukall to do with your religion. Got it Buckey.
My Grandfather's brother's name is Bucky.
It kind of is actually. And contrary to Levanty's opinion, I actually can identify with the sacrifice.
Please note the spelling - He would then be your Great Uncle would he not
Mine is Buckey - Not Bucky -
The E is there because of E Yi Yo. He is also fartface as well.