Obama attacks European leaders for failing to tackle debt crisis

[DurkaDurka]

Blow WHAT up?? Europe???? Is that your solution??? (more slaughter ??)


What are folks that have no jobs, can't get jobs supposed to do??? Or are medically handicapped to the poiint that a job is out of ;the question ?? Maybe they should just exterminate them........as the "useless" members of society that they are in some folks eyes....

Is that your solution???

where does civility and humanity factor in........in your view??

Bah, blow up the EU, as in dismantle it.

What the hell are you babbling about? I never mentioned anything regarding "extermination", you seem to be injecting your Third Reich delusions into what I wrote.

 

[EagleSmack]

I think you would be in the exact same spot though, regardless of who is in charge.

I wouldn't have kept spending I know that. My checkbook is balanced weekly. Nevertheless... the Dems said they could fix it over and over. If he had just stopped ONE of the wars as he promised look what could have been saved. He kept both going and followed Canada and NATO into a 3rd.

 

[DurkaDurka]

I wouldn't have kept spending I know that. My checkbook is balanced weekly. Nevertheless... the Dems said they could fix it over and over. If he had just stopped ONE of the wars as he promised look what could have been saved. He kept both going and followed Canada and NATO into a 3rd.

Ya, I agree, a sane individual would say enough is enough, politicians don't seem to work that way though

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Bah, blow up the EU, as in dismantle it.

What the hell are you babbling about? I never mentioned anything regarding "extermination", you seem to be injecting your Third Reich delusions into what I wrote.

thanks for clarifying. * big difference blowing up the EU and dismantling it ".

How do you propose that it be dismantled , and how do you see it working more effectively than the system in place now??

( an aside: I guess you are not familiar with the program on TV called the exterminator. The lead character goes around exterminating bugs and other infesting critters that become a problem for the home owner. For the record .....you brought up the "third reich, and for many many people it was not a delusion but a horrific reality )

Just sayin'..

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

The Democrats swept the Republicans from congress in 2006 and from the White House in 2008. The "evil right" couldn't have stopped them if they wanted to.

Doing the good things? Like the failed stimulus packages?

The Democrats made a bad situation worse, much worse.

I think you would be in the exact same spot though, regardless of who is in charge.

The stimulous package was done in the final months of the Bush administration was it not? I don't think Obama would have done anything differently but credit/blame where credit/blame is due.

Obama certainly has not stopped spending but it takes all 3 levels of government to accomplish this and expecting congressmen or senate members to cut back while raking in the cash is not really gonna happen.

 

[DurkaDurka]

thanks for clarifying. * big difference blowing up the EU and dismantling it ".

How do you propose that it be dismantled , and how do you see it working more effectively than the system in place now??

( an aside: I guess you are not familiar with the program on TV called the exterminator. The lead character goes around exterminating bugs and other infesting critters that become a problem for the home owner. For the record .....you brought up the "third reich, and for many many people it was not a delusion but a horrific reality )

Just sayin'..

Well, you probably won't need to dismantle it, it will probably implode on it self with Germany backing out at some point, which would end the EU for all intents.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Ya, I agree, a sane individual would say enough is enough, politicians don't seem to work that way though

Barry did NOT follow Canada and NATO in a third war. Where in heck do some of you get your information.?? No wonder the world is in such a mess. Get your facts in order.

Barry INITIATED the move on Libya but decided that it was smarter to do it under the cover of NATO . Canada joined in by choice. It happens that a Canadian is heading NATO at the moment........but it was Canada's (HARPER) decision to "support" the US in this endeavor.

sheesh.......

 

[DurkaDurka]

Barry did NOT follow Canada and NATO in a third war. Where in heck do some of you get your information.?? No wonder the world is in such a mess. Get your facts in order.

Barry INITIATED the move on Libya but decided that it was smarter to do it under the cover of NATO . Canada joined in by choice. It happens that a Canadian is heading NATO at the moment........but it was Canada's (HARPER) decision to "support" the US in this endeavor.

sheesh.......

I never said that, my response was in regard to saying enough is enough when it comes to running massive deficits year after year.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Well, you probably won't need to dismantle it, it will probably implode on it self with Germany backing out at some point, which would end the EU for all intents.

and this dooms day scenario would result in?????

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

The issue in Europe is a matter of controlling bloated costs. They cannot afford to go on paying out more than they bring in. The socialist just want to borrow on already borrowed money. Making the rich pay when you don't have the good sense to manage your own affairs is a form of fiscal mental retardation.

Obama needs to get his house in order and the Europeans need to start making drastic cuts before they drag us all under.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

I never said that, my response was in regard to saying enough is enough when it comes to running massive deficits year after year.

I know you did not say that. Smacker did. ( but he has the american version of the story which is full of holes as usual )

sorry , If it came across like you said it. Not intended that way.:-(

 

[DurkaDurka]

and this dooms day scenario would result in?????

EU members having to live within their means and not relying on Germany to bankroll their aspirations?

 

[EagleSmack]

The stimulous package was done in the final months of the Bush administration was it not? I don't think Obama would have done anything differently but credit/blame where credit/blame is due.

Yes in 2008 Bush passed a stimulus package worth $152 BILLION with the help of the Democrat controlled Congress. At that time the Democrats could have easily defeated it.

HOWEVER

Obama had The American Investment and Recovery Act of 2009 to the tune of $787 BILLION with the help of the Democrat controlled congress.

Do you see a difference?

Obama certainly has not stopped spending but it takes all 3 levels of government to accomplish this and expecting congressmen or senate members to cut back while raking in the cash is not really gonna happen.

Three levels? Legislative, Executive and Judicial? You don't mean to include the Judicial Branch do you?

And no, I don't. Congressmen and Senators are set for life after one term. Their nest's are feathered. Even if all was to go to hell they would be well taken care of.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Yes in 2008 Bush passed a stimulus package worth $152 BILLION with the help of the Democrat controlled Congress. At that time the Democrats could have easily defeated it.

HOWEVER

Obama had The American Investment and Recovery Act of 2009 to the tune of $787 BILLION with the help of the Democrat controlled congress.

Do you see a difference?



Three levels? Legislative, Executive and Judicial? You don't mean to include the Judicial Branch do you?

And no, I don't. Congressmen and Senators are set for life after one term. Their nest's are feathered. Even if all was to go to hell they would be well taken care of.

No I was refering to Presedent house and senate but the house and senate are probably grouped as one.

I missed the 2009 one. I guess I just assumed it was a continuation of the 2008 one. No difference except in size. Both a bad idea. Let the bad business fail and they will be replaced with new ones which are more efficient. Thats what free enterprise is supposed to be. Not a enterprenerial welfare state.

 

[EagleSmack]

No I was refering to Presedent house and senate but the house and senate are probably grouped as one.

That is what I thought you meant and I was just making sure. Yes the Senate and House of Representatives make up the Congress and the one Legislative Branch.

I missed the 2009 one.

Oh it was a doosy and it has failed miserably.

I guess I just assumed it was a continuation of the 2008 one.

No sir... this was a Democrat only. The evil Republicans couldn't have stopped it if they wanted to.

No difference except in size.

But the difference in the amount is staggering. Bush's $152 Billion to Obama's $787 Billion.

Both a bad idea. Let the bad business fail and they will be replaced with new ones which are more efficient. Thats what free enterprise is supposed to be. Not a enterprenerial welfare state.

I agree.