Turkey in warning to Israel: You have one day to apologize for Gaza flotilla raid

[Colpy]

Turkey Expels Israel Ambassador Over Flotilla Raid - ABC News



Since when is PalWatch (hate site) Al Jazeera?

And no propaganda is never true. LOL.

Watch the bottom of the screen, oh stupid one..........

lol

You are like a particularly petulant four year old.....maybe you ARE a four year old....

No. No. No. Is not. I won't. No No.

How about offering a little support for your argument???

Oh, sorry, I forgot!!!

There IS no support for your argument...........

That must be some education you got........

 

[taxslave]

Since we all agree that the blockade is legal than obviously taking what ever means necessary to enforce it must also be legal otherwise there would be no blockade. That is the nature of the beast. The clowns on that tub had the ability to stop or turn around and save themselves a lot of grief. It just wouldn't have made the political statement they were looking for.

 

[TenPenny]

The IDF acted aggressively (as usual), the people on the boat defended themselves. This boat had women and children on it, its objective wasn't to take on the Israeli military.

If that was the case, why did they try to run the blockade, when they knew what would happen?

You can hardly stick your hand in a fire, then claim that your objective was not to burn yourself.

 

[earth_as_one]

Read the report TP. The IDF used excessive and unreasonable force, not just on the Mavi Marmara, but against everyone on all vessels. Even people who offered no resistance were attacked and severely injured. Based on the forensic evidence, it appears, (though it can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt) that the IDF killed some people execution style AFTER they were subdued.

Here is the link again:
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/world/Palmer-Committee-Final-report.pdf

If your neighbor puts up a no trespassing sign, he can't shoot you in the middle of the street, because you intended to trespass. That would also be an example of using unreasonable and excessive force.

The IDF acted in international waters, not in the blockade area. Israel did not warn the ships before boarding. They did not attempt non-violent means first to enforce their blockade. They initiated the use of force and lethal force. The IDF attacked and injured people who were behaving non-violently. The IDF used lethal force against people who were either passive or not using lethal force.

Therefore Israel is responsible for the resulting injuries and deaths.

 

[Colpy]

Read the report TP. The IDF used excessive and unreasonable force, not just on the Mavi Marmara, but against everyone on all vessels. Even people who offered no resistance were attacked and severely injured. Based on the forensic evidence, it appears, (though it can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt) that the IDF killed some people execution style AFTER they were subdued.

Here is the link again:
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/world/Palmer-Committee-Final-report.pdf

If your neighbor puts up a no trespassing sign, he can't shoot you in the middle of the street, because you intended to trespass. That would also be an example of using unreasonable and excessive force.

If a cop attempts to stop your vehicle on the highway, as he is legally permitted to do, you can not carry on and ignore him......when he does stop you, you can't try and beat him with an iron bar. If you do, you will collect several 9mm rounds.

You might as well read Mein Kampf as read the UNHRC on anything to do with Israel.

And you know that EAO.

You should be ashamed.

 

[earth_as_one]

The police would turn on their lights and sirens and give you a chance to pull over, before attempting to shoot out your tires. The police may resort to lethal force, if they judge you to be a lethal threat, but they can't beat people who offer no resistance nor can they shoot people in the back of the head when they are laying on the ground wounded and unarmed. The video evidence shows the IDF using lethal force in response to a fire hose.

Also the police also aren't allowed to steal your jewelry, clothing and money. Apparently the Israel has laid charges, but nothing has come of it.

If our police acted the same way as the IDF, I'd have a problem with our police.

Your ability to excuse Israel for whatever atrocity they commit knows no limits. You should be ashamed.

 

[TenPenny]

Read the report TP. The IDF used excessive and unreasonable force, not just on the Mavi Marmara, but against everyone on all vessels. Even people who offered no resistance were attacked and severely injured. Based on the forensic evidence, it appears, (though it can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt) that the IDF killed some people execution style AFTER they were subdued.

And tell me, oh brilliant one: did this come as a surprise to you? It sure wouldn't to me. If you understand Israel as well as you claim, could you not predict this sort of reaction? Isn't that what you accuse Israel of always doing? So now, it's some sort of surprise that the reaction of the IDF was exactly what you would have predicted?

 

[captain morgan]

I agree that that these people were wrong to resist getting beaten by the Israelis. They should have taken the paint balls, the kicks to the groin, and stomps on the head and so on with out resisting like the people did on the other boats. If they can't do that then they had no business getting on an unarmed ship claiming to be non-violent.

Yes, an excellent point... Perhaps you can back that up with the factoid that the martyrs (sorry; I really mean passengers on a cruise liner) were simply rushing to happily greet the Israeli boarders with individual gifts of knives, clubs and extremely aggressive hugs/slaps on the back.

Yep, it's all a huge misunderstanding.

I doubt Israel will apologize, which gives Turkish politicians no wiggle room. They will have to suspend normal relations with Israel permanently.

OH NO!.. Israel will be paying hugely for this in terms of Turkey suspending their export of refugees

 

[AbtFet]

Turkey expels Israel envoy after Gaza flotilla report, freezes military ties - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

Watch the bottom of the screen, oh stupid one..........

lol

You are like a particularly petulant four year old.....maybe you ARE a four year old....

No. No. No. Is not. I won't. No No.

How about offering a little support for your argument???

Oh, sorry, I forgot!!!

There IS no support for your argument...........

That must be some education you got........

Your dumb hate site is irrelevant, it's not a source at all. This has nothing to do with Al Jazeera, even if some of the footage originally came from them it has clearly been edited by PalWatch.
Stop acting like you have any iota of intelligence.

 

[Colpy]

The police would turn on their lights and sirens and give you a chance to pull over, before attempting to shoot out your tires. The police may resort to lethal force, if they judge you to be a lethal threat, but they can't beat people who offer no resistance nor can they shoot people in the back of the head when they are laying on the ground wounded and unarmed. The video evidence shows the IDF using lethal force in response to a fire hose.

Also the police also aren't allowed to steal your jewelry, clothing and money. Apparently the Israel has laid charges, but nothing has come of it.

If our police acted the same way as the IDF, I'd have a problem with our police.

Your ability to excuse Israel for whatever atrocity they commit knows no limits. You should be ashamed.

Are you fu cking nuts????

Close-Up Footage of Mavi Marmara Passengers Attacking IDF Soldiers (With Sound) - YouTube

This is NO RESISTANCE??????

Show me ANY evidence people were shot in the back of the head while lying ion the ground....most of the killing was done by one Israeli sgt, who shot people while they were beating his downed comrades....yes, in the back of the head. Good for him.

You are getting more and more carried away in your Jew hatred.....that is the only plausible explanation for such a ridiculous assertion.

 

[AbtFet]

If a cop attempts to stop your vehicle on the highway, as he is legally permitted to do, you can not carry on and ignore him......when he does stop you, you can't try and beat him with an iron bar. If you do, you will collect several 9mm rounds.

Even if the cop is way out of his jurisdiction? :lol:

Are you fu cking nuts????

Close-Up Footage of Mavi Marmara Passengers Attacking IDF Soldiers (With Sound) - YouTube

This is NO RESISTANCE??????

Show me ANY evidence people were shot in the back of the head while lying ion the ground....most of the killing was done by one Israeli sgt, who shot people while they were beating his downed comrades....yes, in the back of the head. Good for him.

You are getting more and more carried away in your Jew hatred.....that is the only plausible explanation for such a ridiculous assertion.

Wasn't that video edited by the IDF? Hahaha.

 

[Colpy]

Turkey expels Israel envoy after Gaza flotilla report, freezes military ties - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News




Your dumb hate site is irrelevant, it's not a source at all. This has nothing to do with Al Jazeera, even if some of the footage originally came from them it has clearly been edited by PalWatch.
Stop acting like you have any iota of intelligence.

Sorry Dearie, but I no longer find you amusing.

Even EAO can quote something to back himself up, you haven't even got the limited intellectual capacity required to manage that......so piss off, Moron.

 

[AbtFet]

Sorry Dearie, but I no longer find you amusing.

Even EAO can quote something to back himself up, you haven't even got the limited intellectual capacity required to manage that......so piss off, Moron.

I still find you amusing :lol:

 

[TenPenny]

I still find you amusing :lol:

How can I miss you when you won't go away?

 

[Colpy]

I still find you amusing :lol:

Sorry, I grow tired of you, and EAO, and all the rest of the Jew-haters.

But here........a picture of your hero for you...........

http://www.holocaust-history.org/short-essays/himmler-480.jpg

 

[earth_as_one]

Read the report. The people on the Mavi Maramara weren't the only ones the IDF attacked on the high seas that day. The IDF used force against people who were acting passively and non-violently on all ships. On the Mavi Marmara, the people on board were attacked in international waters outside of the blockade area just like the people on the other ships. The people on the other ships suffered serious injuries and were maltreated, even though they acted passively and non-violently. The IDF launched an unprovoked attack against the people on the Mavi Marmara. Because these people didn't act passively, some of them faced lethal consequences, even though they weren't using lethal force and in some cases may have already been subdued.

Also, the General Assembly established the UNHRC by adopting a resolution (A/RES/60/251) on 15 March 2006, in order to replace the previous UNCHR and adopted a number of changes to address concerns by the US, Israel and Canada that it was unfairly biased against Israel. It also made a good human rights record a requirement for membership. Canada was a member of the new committee until 2009. I consider them far more reliable than Jihadwatch, GreenFootballs, and other Islamaphobic sites which form the foundation of your irrational hate and fear of Muslims. At least the UNHRC has wide repreeentation and a diversity of viewpoints. Your hatesites all scream the same propaganda in unison.

 

[AbtFet]

Jew-haters? You blindly support Israel no matter what they do, maybe you're an Arab-hater?

 

[captain morgan]

Read the report. The people on the Mavi Maramara weren't the only ones the IDF attacked on the high seas that day. The IDF used force against people who were acting passively and non-violently on all ships. On the Mavi Marmara, the people on board were attacked in international waters outside of the blockade area just like the people on the other ships. The people on the other ships suffered serious injuries and were maltreated, even though they acted passively and non-violently. The IDF launched an unprovoked attack against the people on the Mavi Marmara. Because these people didn't act passively, some of them faced lethal consequences, even though they weren't using lethal force and in some cases may have already been subdued.

They had knowingly and purposefully violated the law. Passively or not no longer matters; the consequences were brought on entirely by their decisions.

 

[TenPenny]

Read the report. The people on the Mavi Maramara weren't the only ones the IDF attacked on the high seas that day. The IDF used force against people who were acting passively and non-violently on all ships. On the Mavi Marmara, the people on board were attacked in international waters outside of the blockade area just like the people on the other ships. The people on the other ships suffered serious injuries and were maltreated, even though they acted passively and non-violently. The IDF launched an unprovoked attack against the people on the Mavi Marmara. Because these people didn't act passively, some of them faced lethal consequences, even though they weren't using lethal force and in some cases may have already been subdued.

Also, the General Assembly established the UNHRC by adopting a resolution (A/RES/60/251) on 15 March 2006, in order to replace the previous UNCHR and adopted a number of changes to address concerns by the US, Israel and Canada that it was unfairly biased against Israel. It also made a good human rights record a requirement for membership. Canada was a member of the new committee until 2009. I consider them far more reliable than Jihadwatch, GreenFootballs, and other Islamaphobic sites which form the foundation of your irrational hate and fear of Muslims. At least the UNHRC has wide repreeentation and a diversity of viewpoints. Your hatesites all scream the same propaganda in unison.

Let us know when Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and various other states apologize for supporting international terrorism perpetrated in the name of Allan.

 

[captain morgan]

"Allan"... Sweet.

That oughta get some folks here pretty hot under the collar