A call to the American people

[Corduroy]

Work sent me here: Turkmenistan and a couple other "stans" as well in 2000 and I worked for a Canadian company in Kyrgyzstan in the early 90's. I never had a problem other than dealing with permits for damn near everything.

The people were fantastic. I put on 15lbs in 15 days from being invited to eat with families of the people I worked with. No matter how poor these people were they fed me like it was a wedding.

Oh and I love sitting on my personal gifted Persian rug playing my handmade tar.

People are nice and someone gave you Persian rug? That's all you got? I work in immigration and have clients from all over the world. My clients from Iraq are by the far the most hospitable and generous. Iraq is still a ****hole. There's a Burmese man who, despite his poverty, is always giving a co-worker on mine little gifts. Burma is still a genocidal dictatorship.

And I have travelled. I've spent most of the adult life outside of Canada working in Asia. People all over the world are kind. That has little bearing on the fact that so many of them are poor, exploited and oppressed.

You were in Turkmenistan in 2000, one year after Saparamurat Niyazov declared himself President for Life. Niyazov was brutal, oppressive and a maniac. He had Gaddafi levels of insanity.

Let's take one freedom index from the time and see where Turkmenistan ranks.

In 2002 (the closest to 2000 I can find) Turkmenistan ranked fourth last in the world for press freedom. In the latest rankings (2010) it ranked third last, i.e. not an improvement.
Reporters Without Borders

Was this supposed to be a joke?

Turkey.

Turkey's probably your best bet. But as a democracy, it's kinda like Pakistan in that it vacillates between elections and military dictatorship. They are currently having an election actually. The sitting Prime Minister once commented that democracy was like train, you only rode it as far as you needed to, then you get off. Turkey is not a liberal democracy by any means. It still struggles with widespread human rights violations, suppression of free speech and the press and policies towards ethnic minorities that borders on the genocidal.

Qatar and Bahrain look like nice countries minus the violent protests currently going on.

Is this also supposed to be a joke?

 

[Ron in Regina]

As I said before, it is better for the American people to be with the Arab and Muslims. The Arab and Muslims will be better friends than Zionists are for Americans. Such friendship with the Arab and Muslims will be better for the coming generations and for the prosperity and peace of the Americans, the Arab and the whole world.



The Quran is for all peoples and nations.

Between this, & the Opening Post....it comes across as a "Join us or else" vibe.

I, like many folks, don't accept ultimatums well, at all. If given an ultimatum, even
if the alturnative is a ridiculous choice...I will usually go with option number two.

 

[CUBert]

Is this also supposed to be a joke?

No.......

 

[petros]

You were in Turkmenistan in 2000, one year after Saparamurat Niyazov declared himself President for Life. Niyazov was brutal, oppressive and a maniac. He had Gaddafi levels of insanity.

Let's take one freedom index from the time and see where Turkmenistan ranks.

In 2002 (the closest to 2000 I can find) Turkmenistan ranked fourth last in the world for press freedom. In the latest rankings (2010) it ranked third last, i.e. not an improvement.
Reporters Without Borders

Was this supposed to be a joke?

Well sunshine we got what we wanted when we went in 2000 by installing who we wanted in 2000. Welcome to the real world Cookie!

 

[gopher]

''America goes here and there to occupy the Muslim countries ...''

Not me! On the contrary, I roundly CONDEMNED all that evil.

 

[Durry]

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The American people and all peoples are at a great danger of having consequences like those of Fukushima in Japan. That is because of their wronging other people and transgression on the rest of God’s creation.
NT]

You should open your eyes eanassir and see what is really going on.

It is the people in muslim countries like Syria and Lybia who are really suffering. Using your logic they are feeling the wrath of God for their wrong doing and non believing.

It seems the Muslims in Muslim countries are the ones suffering the greatest consequences and as a result they will never be able to recover from for centuries.

God is always on the Japanese side, they have recovered quickly in the past and they will do so again.
The Americans have nothing to fear, God is always on the side of the west.

But this is not the case for Muslim countries, they are beginning to suffer more and more as time goes on and they have very hope of recoverying for many centuries. They have allowed the world to move on without them, now they are lost for centuries.

Wake up and smell reality eanassir, your getting left behind with the other Muslims who fail to recognize reality.

 

[taxslave]

As I said before, it is better for the American people to be with the Arab and Muslims. The Arab and Muslims will be better friends than Zionists are for Americans. Such friendship with the Arab and Muslims will be better for the coming generations and for the prosperity and peace of the Americans, the Arab and the whole world.



The Quran is for all peoples and nations

All people everywhere are the servants of God; God sent many apostles and He sent His apostle Mohammed to save mankind from the darkness of ignorance and idolatry to the light of guidance and exclusive devotion to God alone without associate.

God - be glorified - revealed the Quran to warn all people of the consequences of the idolatry and the dnial of God and His apostles and His revealed books, and to warn them of the afterlife and the Judgment.

(Blessed be [the glory of] Him Who has sent down the 'Furqan' [: the sundry or sporadic revelations of the Quran] onto His servant [: Mohammed] that he may become a warner to the worlds.)


The above between brackets is the explanation of the Quran 25: 1
تَبَارَكَ الَّذِي نَزَّلَ الْفُرْقَانَ عَلَى عَبْدِهِ لِيَكُونَ لِلْعَالَمِينَ نَذِيرًا

========================================================

God sent Mohammed as mercy for all nations

(We sent you not [Mohammed], but as a mercy for all creatures.

Say [Mohammed to them]: "I am only inspired that your God is only One God; have you then submitted yourselves to God's command?"

But if they turn back [away from you, Mohammed], then say: "I have conveyed [the message] to you [people] all alike, although I know not whether soon or delayed is that [punishment] which you are promised with.")


The above between brackets is the explanation of the Quran 21: 107-109
وَمَا أَرْسَلْنَاكَ إِلَّا رَحْمَةً لِّلْعَالَمِينَ

Don't take the positive rep seriously. I missed and don't know how to fix it. But the post is funny.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

''America goes here and there to occupy the Muslim countries ...''

Not me! On the contrary, I roundly CONDEMNED all that evil.

So you accept this fanatical crap eh?

 

[Omicron]

A call to the American people

You are wrong-doers, but you are unaware

The lesson of Fukushima

The American people and all peoples are at a great danger of having consequences like those of Fukushima in Japan.

No they're not. Fukashima was a geographical/geological/engineering what-the-f-ck caused by nobody ever expecting a tidal wave to go that high to wipe out the power generators driving the pumps cooling their spent rods.

And this is in a nation accustomed to tidal waves.

Americans are accustomed to toronados, but now they are getting more.

Manitobans are accustomed to flooding, but now they are getting more.

Vancouverites are accustomed to rain, but now they are getting more.


That's what happens when climates change. When you change the amount of heat driving the flows of the atmospheres and oceans, it goes through a period of chaos before it settles into it's new system.

Ever paddled a canoe and looked at the water as you moved your paddle through it? See those eddies as you added energy to the water? That's what heating up the atmosphere and oceans do to it until it figures out it's new stable flow pattern.

That is because of their wronging other people and transgression on the rest of God’s creation.

I've got an idea for a new multi-cultural social gathering place.

Right wing Muslims with right wing Christians.

I want to take odds on whether they'd declare war on each other or find themselves in stagering agreement.

America goes here and there to occupy the Muslim countries, but they say: we come to liberate them.

Actually what happened is that American *corporations* managed by MBAs and owned by "shareholders" incapable of telling the difference between wearing an Armani suit and jerking off, and when they made ignorant offers such that the local rulers told them to go to hell, said MBAs used a combination of social connections combined with legally trumped-up decelerations of protection of American rights to twist a use of American power into the purpose of the financial gains of the dark side of the establishment.

So they killed thousands of people in Afghanistan and Iraq and caused all the mess and destruction, and yet they say: we came to liberate these people.

Yeah, that's because the frikkin' MBAs were driving the western government. MBA's know only how to get a haircut, buy a suit, and serve shareholders, which is a legalistic way of conceptually extending land ownership.

The thing is, not everybody here is that way. So if you want to sell oil and invest, why don't you deal with them?

You want to work together? You want stable communities with trade?

For starters while our troops are still there you could train some cops to keep out the Taliban thugs while we guarde the place.

But I'm starting to get a hunch of something learned by Russians and Brits before, which is that Afghanis are a bunch of f-ckin numb-nut retards forced into that part of the world because in the days of cavemen they would have been killed but somewhere along the way Eurasia got nice enough to allow them the option of exile.

We've been trying to civilize a bunch of thugs, which I could use in occupation of another planet fighting dinosaurs, but not here.

They are unfair: they align with Jews and Zionists of Palestine against the Palestinians, the Arab and the Muslims in their homeland.

Jesus mother-f-cking holy Christ, I bet you've never actually read the Koran.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

For those of you beating that same old anti-american drum here's a little news flash for you.

This retarded fanatical homophobic crap has been around a hell of a lot longer than America..

As for the Op, Tenpenny said it best: Clean up your own backyard before you start preaching to the West.

Here's a call to the Muslims who sympathize with this Op:

1. Stop the murder of Gay people;
2. Stop treating women as if they were possessions to abuse and mutilate;
3. Stop strapping bombs to your children because you're too gutless to become a martyr yourself;
4. Stop using little boys as prostitutes to service your Pedophile Brothers in Arms;
5. Stop stoning people to death for crimes like Adultery;
6. Stop cutting off the hands of thieves you bloody Neanderthal Monkeys;
7. Stop honor killing, especially in the case of rape, but overall we'd appreciate if you'd knock it off altogether;
8. Stop oppressing other religions and those who choose not to believe;
9. Stop murdering film-makers just because they criticize your culture;
10. Stop freaking out over cartoons of your Prophet and burning down Europe (It's a cartoon for cripe sake);
11. Stop endorsing terrorism as if it is your only option;
12. Stop Sharia Law as it is an act of barbarism; and
13. Stop blaming the West and Israel for all your woes and look to your own leadership

I could go on, but I'm almost out of pixel juice so I'll stop there.

 

[Omicron]

A call to the American people

You are wrong-doers, but you are unaware

The lesson of Fukushima

The American people and all peoples are at a great danger of having consequences like those of Fukushima in Japan.

No they're not. Fukashima was a geographical/geological/engineering what-the-f-ck caused by nobody ever expecting a tidal wave to go that high to wipe out the power generators driving the pumps cooling their spent rods.

And this is in a nation accustomed to tidal waves.

Americans are accustomed to toronados, and now they are getting more.

Manitobans are accustomed to flooding, and now they are getting more.

Vancouverites are accustomed to rain, and now they are getting more.


That's what happens when climates change. When you change the amount of heat driving the flows of the atmospheres and oceans, it goes through a period of chaos before it settles into it's new system.

Ever paddled a canoe and looked at the water as you moved your paddle through it? See those eddies as you added energy to the water? That's what heating up the atmosphere and oceans do to it until it figures out it's new stable flow pattern.

That is because of their wronging other people and transgression on the rest of God’s creation.

I've got an idea for a new multi-cultural social gathering place.

Right wing Muslims with right wing Christians.

I want to take odds on whether they'd declare war on each other or find themselves in stagering agreement.

America goes here and there to occupy the Muslim countries, but they say: we come to liberate them.

Actually what happened is that American *corporations* managed by MBAs and owned by "shareholders" incapable of telling the difference between wearing an Armani suit and jerking off, and when they made ignorant offers such that the local rulers told them to go to hell, said MBAs used a combination of social connections combined with legally trumped-up decelerations of protection of American rights to twist a use of American power into the purpose of the financial gains of the dark side of the establishment.

So they killed thousands of people in Afghanistan and Iraq and caused all the mess and destruction, and yet they say: we came to liberate these people.

Yeah, that's because the frikkin' MBAs were driving the western government. MBA's know only how to get a haircut, buy a suit, and serve shareholders, which is a legalistic way of conceptually extending land ownership.

The thing is, not everybody here is that way. So if you want to sell oil and invest, why don't you deal with them?

You want to work together? You want stable communities with trade?

For starters while our troops are still there you could train some cops to keep out the Taliban thugs while we guarde the place.

But I'm starting to get a hunch of something learned by Russians and Brits before, which is that Afghanis are a bunch of f-ckin numb-nut retards forced into that part of the world because in the days of cavemen they would have been killed but somewhere along the way Eurasia got nice enough to allow them the option of exile.

We've been trying to civilize a bunch of thugs, which I could use in occupation of another planet fighting dinosaurs, but not here.

They are unfair: they align with Jews and Zionists of Palestine against the Palestinians, the Arab and the Muslims in their homeland.

Jesus mother-f-cking holy Christ, I bet you've never actually read the Koran.




This BBS is full or bugs. It double posted one of my edits. I apologize and am going to make a point about how if they wanted it to actually work I am for hire as the only guy anywhere who can make bullet-proof software.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Well, I dunno about the rest of you, but I find the OP to be breathtakingly arrogant. We're right, you're wrong, god's on our side, join us or god will kill you. Yeah, that's always worked so well before, though it's not usually god who does the killing.

 

[eanassir]

The "Stop" lies:

Stop

1. Stop
2. Stop
3. Stop
4. Stop
5. Stop
6. Stop
7. Stop
8. Stop
9. Stop
10. Stop
11. Stop

At last he himself decided to stop:

so I'll stop there.

 

[Corduroy]

Well sunshine we got what we wanted when we went in 2000 by installing who we wanted in 2000. Welcome to the real world Cookie!

Corduroy: Name a Muslim country that isn't a ****hole
petros: Turkmenistan! I got a Persian rug.
Corduroy: [reasons why Turkmenistan is a ****hole]
petros: [kneejerk anti-Westernism that isn't relevant to the discussion]

I know that the old anti-West red herring fall backs work most of the time on this forum, but they don't work on me.

 

[eanassir]

Do you belong to the West realy? Are you from the West or from the East?
When they came from every country in the World, so let them now return from where they came.

 

[DurkaDurka]

Do you belong to the West realy? Are you from the West or from the East?
When they came from every country in the World, so let them now return from where they came.

Same could be said for your creed, return to the desert and hallucinate more.

 

[Corduroy]

East and West are relative. The Earth is a sphere. Which way is Mecca?

 

[DurkaDurka]

East and West are relative. The Earth is a sphere. Which way is Mecca?

According to google maps, it's located somewhere between the asshole and nether region.

 

[YukonJack]

eanassir is the perfect example that Islam numbs the mind, kills independent thinking, turns otherwise normal people into robots and makes them feel superior and righteous.

Description of a simple glob of gray matter, known everywhere else as a MIND.

 

[ironsides]

LOL That's if the Americans don't wipe you out first.
Id be more worried about the wrath of the Americans then the Wrath of God LOL
I use to be open to Muslims but the more I read your crap the more I understand
why they want to kill you annoying little twerps.

Yes, you should be worried about our wrath, after all the God of Moses is on our side. ;-)


If I were to visit Mecca today could someone point me to the Christian church?