What's up with all the strikes lately?

TenPenny

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I mean, say if you were off work for, say 2 weeks. How much more money are you going to have to get to offset the money you lost in the last 2 weeks.

Obviously, 2 weeks' pay.

And, with 52 wks per year, if you get a 4 percent raise, you're covered in 1 year. A 2 percent raise means it will take 2 years.

Is math your strong suit?
 

JLM

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Obviously, 2 weeks' pay.

And, with 52 wks per year, if you get a 4 percent raise, you're covered in 1 year. A 2 percent raise means it will take 2 years.

Is math your strong suit?

In an ideal world, but not in the real world. :smile:
 

JLM

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What are you saying, that a 4 percent raise is not equal to 2 wks pay?

Not exactly- when you are strapped for money you can't take advantage of sales etc. you get charged interest on unpaid bills, just missing one mortgage payment can cost you $thousands by the end of the term.
 

TenPenny

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Not exactly- when you are strapped for money you can't take advantage of sales etc. you get charged interest on unpaid bills, just missing one mortgage payment can cost you $thousands by the end of the term.

Which is, of course, apropos of nothing, but a good point as well. Many unionized workers making six-figure incomes are living hand to mouth, unable to manage all the payments on the $60,000 trucks, the boats, the skidoos, the timeshares, and the mortgages.

Still, if you get a 4% raise, that makes up for 2 wks without pay, in a single year.
 

Durry

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Obviously, 2 weeks' pay.

And, with 52 wks per year, if you get a 4 percent raise, you're covered in 1 year. A 2 percent raise means it will take 2 years.

Is math your strong suit?

No, it's not my math that is wrong, it is your reasoning that is wrong.

Using your example of 4%, your assuming that thru the union strike you got a full 4% by only going on strike. This is almost never the case.
Most often the companies provide an offer, of say in your example, 3%, then further negotiations might lead to another 0.05% and then they wind up striking for the last 0.05%, for example.
This is the part that had no economic sense.

Maybe you should go back to school and learn to reason with a bit more objectivity,,,eh !!

eerrr that should read 0.5% (not 0.05%)
 

JLM

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Which is, of course, apropos of nothing, but a good point as well. Many unionized workers making six-figure incomes are living hand to mouth, unable to manage all the payments on the $60,000 trucks, the boats, the skidoos, the timeshares, and the mortgages.

Still, if you get a 4% raise, that makes up for 2 wks without pay, in a single year.

You're absolutely correct............................on paper. :smile:
 

petros

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Apparently.... And they are demanding a raise or else they will endeavor to make their sh*tty service even sh*ttier.
They shouldn't have farmed out to India.

If you are in healthcare you have a 48 hr week and ****loads of OT. If you haven't had a contract in 3 years you've lost all your OT on what should have been a raise 3 years ago.
 

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They shouldn't have farmed out to India.

If you are in healthcare you have a 48 hr week and ****loads of OT. If you haven't had a contract in 3 years you've lost all your OT on what should have been a raise 3 years ago.

As far as I know you can't be forced to work O.T. so if the 11/2 times ain't worth I wouldn't work it. Of course I'm from the old school so perhaps $50 an hour (for O.T.) isn't as much as I think it is. :smile:
 

petros

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As far as I know you can't be forced to work O.T. so if the 11/2 times ain't worth I wouldn't work it. Of course I'm from the old school so perhaps $50 an hour (for O.T.) isn't as much as I think it is. :smile:
In some health care professions you can't get out being on call 24/7 or have staff shortages.

My wife averages 60hrs a week.

They don't want to hire more and they don't want to pay those whose workload is increasing right along with districts population.
 

petros

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Mine used to do between 'working' and 'on call', Tues - Fri, 10-12 hr days. Every 4th weekend (from Fri 5pm to Mon 8am), and every Monday from 8am to 8am Tuesday.

That ended when we decided to have a family.
And people wonder why healthcare workers get pissed and go on strike?
 

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Mail lockout 'totally irresponsible': union chief

The head of the Canadian Union of Postal Workers is blasting Canada Post's "totally irresponsible" decision to shut down its urban operations across the country.

Denis Lemelin, the national CUPW president and chief negotiator, says the Crown corporation should be focused on getting mail out to Canadians and not on forcing postal workers off the job. Lemelin said the union had recently offered to send 48,000 urban employees back to work if Canada Post would resume the previous collective agreement while the two sides continued to work towards an agreement on a new contract.

But that offer was rejected and Canada Post announced late Tuesday that they would suspend urban mail services for the time being. "They want to cut the service to the population and that's really unacceptable," Lemelin told CTV's Canada AM on Wednesday morning.

CTV Ottawa- Mail lockout 'totally irresponsible': union chief - CTV News