What's your opinion on United States Of America?
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No questions.
Wouldn't it be really neat if DU caused cancer and birth defects like you say it does? Isn't that how this debate started?
Shouldn't all these veterans be dying or at least getting lung cancer? Oh well.
It does and it is not instant. Radiation effects are well known if you are willing to look them up. Don't be afraid to accept that you've been lied to and your comrades are in a for world of pain and anquish they never signed on for.
I guess the Pentagoon figures it's cheaper if vets die young and no bennys or pension need to be paid out.
Comparative stochastic effects of inhaled alpha- a... [Radiat Res. 1999] - PubMed result
Yup, radiation can be unhealthy in large doses.
Is that all you were trying to say?
Not instant? Is 1991 considered instant?
Pain and anguish? Where are these multitudes of my comrades suffereing from radiation poisoning? lmao.
The Lung Cancer Alliance - Focus on Veterans and Lung Cancer - Conflicts and Lung Cancer
Then do something about it.
Gulf War Veterans
In 1998, again at the direction of Congress, the IOM began studying the health impact of the Gulf War exposure to depleted uranium, the residue left after nuclear grade uranium is extracted. Because it is even denser than lead, depleted uranium has been used in defensive armor plating and in armor-piercing projectiles, such as SCUD missiles. Like radon, which is the second leading cause of lung cancer, depleted uranium can give off radioactive products of decay that can be carcinogenic. While the first IOM report in 2000 found insufficient evidence of a definite link to lung cancer, the 2008 update now assigns “high priority” to continued review of the link with lung cancer. IOM has also been reviewing the impact of exposure to fuel exhausts, smoke from burning oil wells, kerosene cookers and heaters in enclosed tents and other battlefield emissions. The “strongest finding” was the association of combustion products and lung cancer.
Looks like it's starting to show up so they are starting to take it seriously after 2008.
It wouldn't be the first time they lied about the safety of a weapon or compound they've utilized would it?
Just a snippet....
Smoking and the Military
Until 1976, cigarettes were routinely included in K-rations and C-rations and for decades sold at deeply discounted prices in commissaries and exchanges. Tobacco products are still sold at discounted prices on military exchanges and commissaries (except for Navy and Marine commissaries). Military induced smoking accounts for a significant percentage of the higher lung cancer rates, perhaps as high as 50-70% of the excess deaths. The percentage of active duty military who ever smoked was highest during the Korean and Vietnam Wars (75%). Currently overall 32.2 % of active duty military personnel smoke versus 19.8% of adults in the civilian population and 22.2% of veterans.
Think that might have a little to do with it?
Sorry. Nice try. The government never forced me to smoke.
Like try to ban radiation in general? Sunbathing? Golfing without sun block? X-Rays? Cameras? Floor tiles?
80% of lung cancer appears after the age of 59. What is the average age of the Gulf War vets? 40-45?
It handy that the Pentagoon won't have to deal with this front and center for another 15-20 years. That's ****ing handy.
It handy that the Pentagoon won't have to deal with this front and center for another 15-20 years. That's ****ing handy.
"They're trying to kill me," Yossarian told him calmly.
"No one's trying to kill you," Clevinger cried.
"Then why are they shooting at me?" Yossarian asked.
"They're shooting at everyone," Clevinger answered. "They're trying to kill everyone."
"And what difference does that make?
- Catch 22
Need more proof than that... looks like... possibly...
It just is not proof.
But are you just saying that radiation can be bad? I can agree to that. lol
I'd rather get a whiff of DU dust than get shot.
Why don't we ban flying steel, bullets, rotting corpses, explosions, and fire from the battlefield. How will that work?
We'd be safer right?
Or is it just that there is a bit of radiation in DU which makes it SO much more evil.
How many years did the govt and various bodies of govt claim that agent orange wasn't bad and didn't cause any serious health issues. They lie all the time.
DU is radioactive and when turned into particulate vapor on impact generates a multitude of chemotoxic effects. If you read up on it the chemotoxins are by far the worse effect.
DU is radioactive and when turned into particulate vapor on impact generates a multitude of chemotoxic effects. If you read up on it the chemotoxins are by far the worse effect.
Why are you talking about aerosol or vapor, DU weapons do not explode, if they hit something they will get hot but nothing of any consequence will convert to a aerosol or vapor, maybe just particles. Yes, some radiation is very deadly, but not DU particles unless you add them to your food regularly.
I didn't realize that nothing hit by DU weapons exploded, burnt, or otherwise ignited. That's pretty powerful stuff, should use it to put out fires.
Some have described the effect of depleted uranium as being like a laser in its ability to punch a hole through armor. The projectiles do not themselves contain explosives, but explosions often result from the fuel or munitions stored within a vehicle. In addition to being highly effective, depleted uranium rounds have the advantage of avoiding unexploded ordinance left on the battlefield or causing extreme collateral damage if the round misses the target. They also won’t explode in the breach of a gun. Nothing better for penetrating armor.