Abortion demonstration just doesn't sound right.

CUBert

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If I've said it once on these many threads dealing with abortion, I've said it a dozen times..................the subject of the abortion doesn't have a say, so therefore I say it's wrong (unless the life of the mother is at risk). Is that a difficult concept to understand? A person who wants to take away others' rights is presumptuous to say the least. :smile:


It doesn't have a say, because it's not a full functioning human capable of cognitive thinking or feelings.....
 

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So are carrots and lettuce and pigs and cows and chickens and their eggs you eat. The trees cut down to build and keep you warm are life too.
All things I respect. I actually have small pines growing along one of my game trails, I call them "The Kids".

I agree that when I take a life, it is in self interest, but a necessity. Killing an unborn child is only a self interest in the purest of selfish wants.

So as Mr Carlin says, it is a selective self interested position.
George is an entertainer.
 

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It doesn't have a say, because it's not a full functioning human capable of cognitive thinking or feelings.....



Please tell me you have rethought this post, will be pulling it, and that you REALLY don't want to go down this road.

"not a full functioning human" :roll:
 

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You have trouble with this fact, because it would obliterate your entire abortion is murder argument.
 

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I agree that when I take a life, it is in self interest, but a necessity.

A neccessity to you, not the chicken or the cow on your plate.

George is an entertainer.
I have seen his act and I have seen him in serious interviews. He is politically astute and a well spoken intelligent man. He is also funny as hell.
By then it would be murder.
I think that is the point that was being made.
 

gerryh

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You have trouble with this fact, because it would obliterate your entire abortion is murder argument.



I have a 23 year old nephew that would fall into your description fu ckhead...... you going to tell me that he ALSO has no rights?
 

CUBert

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i have a 23 year old nephew that would fall into your description fu ckhead...... You going to tell me that he also has no rights?

your 23 year old nephew has feelings and knows he's alive and knows the feeling of being alive, this isn't the same as a ****ing embryo or a fetus that's never breathed outside its mothers womb.
 

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A neccessity to you, not the chicken or the cow on your plate.
Do you need to eat aborted human fetuses to live?

I have seen his act and I have seen him in serious interviews. He is politically astute and a well spoken intelligent man. He is also funny as hell.
Who catered to a specific audience, comprised of sell outs, who went from hippies to elitist corporate profiteers.
 

gerryh

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your 23 year old nephew has feelings and knows he's alive and knows the feeling of being alive, this isn't the same as a ****ing embryo or a fetus that's never breathed outside its mothers womb.



Oh? You've met my nephew?


I'm just going to add this one thing. Last year, his care giver didn't check the water in his bath properly. He put him into that bath and my nephew received 3rd degree burns before the care giver realized the water was scalding hot.

There are many many children and adults that are severely mentally and physically "challenged" that would fit right into the little corner you have painted.

You obviously don't think about what you post before you hit that submit button, whether that is because you are stupid or not, I'm not sure..... but I am leaning towards stupidity.
 
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Like I said, let the abortion promoters revel in their temporary, pathetic, pitiful and empty existence. We know better.

As a person who is 'pro choice', I am also a person who would not get an abortion, what I do believe,
is 'not' to push my choices onto others, everyone has a story to tell, a situation in their lives,
a reason why they make choices, and that is a very important freedom in life.

We cannot 'make' up reasons why people choose an abortion, the only situations we know are 'our' own.

People assume too much, and don't want to know the truth of most matters.

It is so so easy to point the finger, wag the finger, but so hard to really 'see' and 'listen' to
the many 'reasons' why certain choices are made.
 

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feelings and knows he's alive and knows the feeling of being alive, this isn't the same as a ****ing embryo or a fetus that's never breathed outside its mothers womb.
Have you ever played with your unborn child or had your wife tell you how excited it gets when it's hears your voice when you come home from work and when the fetus was 25 WEEKS?

No feelings or interactions with parents before ever breathing eh?

**** that!

As a person who is 'pro choice', I am also a person who would not get an abortion, what I do believe,
is 'not' to push my choices onto others, everyone has a story to tell, a situation in their lives,
a reason why they make choices, and that is a very important freedom in life.

We cannot 'make' up reasons why people choose an abortion, the only situations we know are 'our' own.

People assume too much, and don't want to know the truth of most matters.

It is so so easy to point the finger, wag the finger, but so hard to really 'see' and 'listen' to
the many 'reasons' why certain choices are made.
What are the valid reasons or situations? Are they free from pressure by parents, peers or fears? What about the truly selfish reasons?
 

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http://tunes.digitalock.com/Augusts_Rhapsody.mp3 <-- click to play

Gentlemen, it's Friday and the economy is picking up for Canada albeit not for Uncle Sam, therefore this evening jue suis est going to maintain classic Canadian composure and talk about everything except that which matters, except for the part where I will mention only this one time how the reason is because Asia is eating up resources to the point were we could quintuple the tax on mineral exports and Asia would pay, the reason being China has had a problem with citizens doing surplus saving, wherein their people don't spend enough to get the wheels rolling for them to have an internal economy, whereupon their single party system has introduced "incentives" to encourage Chinese citizens to spend money, but China is so self-sufficient in food and cheep stuff that the only thing they can spend the rest is on quality manufactured goods from Germany or stuff they build for themselves requiring resources and minerals or tourism.

In a roundabout way it's like China got money from the US, Canada gets it back, and you as an excellent Canadian are going to go south and spend it back.

In the mean time we have a new and potentially evil government of a form only people from Alberta can understand.

Only Albertans can remember how in the early 70's the Ku Klux Klan tried to set up a branch-plant there, only to fail because the Albertans had already right wing organizations in place there shaming the Ku Klux Klan into not knowing how to feel the hatred and fear.

Now Canada has a PM of that ilk, and the Canadian hopefuls, whom I've met, are saying that the large number of Ontario Conservatives drawn in will make the party more PC Blue, without looking at Harper's history nor noticing anything about how it's only about who gets into cabinet.

Therefore, in as much as "conservative (so much crap the way the corporations conned the small-business people) had to grit their teeth", the answer on this one is coming back with some teeth.

Specifically, if Harper is not on the side of evil and truly does respect the rights of the unborn, then he will somewhere be able to find among his followers someone with an IQ above that of a neanderthal and ask the questions of why crime when down after poor women were allowed to abort and if he wants to deliver international blessings unto the rest of the world not for family control but for unwanted child care and why he doesn't deliver that back upon his own people.

http://tunes.digitalock.com/comeyeallfrefrance.mp3 <-- click to play

Specifically, the issue is this: All mothers well fed in the last third of their pregnancy produce thinking kids.

That was an issue on Chretien's platform, but now we have a party having a position against abortion and willing to send money overseas to make birth in poor overpopulated places easier when all required is to feed pregnant women in their last trimester of pregnancy.

Let me guess... Harper is too chicken **** to use his majority to make sure all pregnant women are well fed in their last trimester.

Do that and we do not have dumb criminal kids twenty years later.

http://tunes.digitalock.com/spacecowboy.mp3 <-- click to play

The difference is if a woman eats well in her third trimester, the kid has an average IQ score 20 points higher. They get jobs.

Oh gosh... if not that then we build jails to sop up the mucks.
 
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CUBert

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Oh? You've met my nephew?


I'm just going to add this one thing. Last year, his care giver didn't check the water in his bath properly. He put him into that bath and my nephew received 3rd degree burns before the care giver realized the water was scalding hot.

There are many many children and adults that are severely mentally and physically "challenged" that would fit right into the little corner you have painted.

You obviously don't think about what you post before you hit that submit button, whether that is because you are stupid or not, I'm not sure..... but I am leaning towards stupidity.

I have much more to learn on the subject certainly, you've given me something to think about in regards to mentally handicapped individuals.
It's hard though to really comprehend how a man, who's never experienced giving birth to a child, can tell what a woman she should do with her unborn child. it sounds more anti-woman than pro-life.