Canada's Federal Election Polls

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Nanos seems to be less crazy than Angus Reid, though last election Angus was more accurate.
 

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Iggy and the Libs are beginning to lose theirs minds.

Heard two ads today, one suggesting Jack in soft on gun control....nearly drove into a tree on that one.

Then another one saying Harper and Layton are career politicians and we need a change from that, then on the next news story they said the Libs were bringing out Cretien to boost liberal support.....then I did crash into a tree.
 

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At this point I think I'm a bit numb to the crap being spewed from the ad campaigns. I don't think the propaganda will help the liberal side and I have a feeling Iggy knows that as well.

If they're going to go out with a bang, then now is the time to shock and awe. Make a surprise proposition that truly appeals to voters and put your accountability on the line for it.

Talking dish about the other guys is just wasted money at this point.
 

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At this point I think I'm a bit numb to the crap being spewed from the ad campaigns. I don't think the propaganda will help the liberal side and I have a feeling Iggy knows that.

The pollsters have suggested the negative ads on coalitions have backfired in Quebec and the popularity from there is having a domino effect across the country because of the positive campaign Layton is running.....hows that hopey changey thing workin for ya?;-)

Pretty good actually.:lol:
 

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The pollsters have suggested the negative ads on coalitions have backfired in Quebec and the popularity from there is having a domino effect across the country because of the positive campaign Layton is running.....hows that hopey changey thing workin for ya?;-)

Pretty good actually.:lol:

Quebecers are indeed very open to the idea of a coalition and Harper's anti-coalition talk has indeed backfired here.

I don't know if these only passed in Quebec but these NDP ads were rather successful in this part of the country.


YouTube - Publicité télé du NPD - "Hamster"


YouTube - Publicité télé du NPD - "Chiens"

For those wondering what the French says it's basically saying Ottawa is always stuck in the same old debates and turning around in circles. Time for change.

There French slogan is ''Let's work together''
 

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The EKOS poll and the Angus Reid poll to my knowledge and especially the EKOS poll
sampled far more people and the question was direct.
EKOS surveyed 3004 people, twice the normal sample. The question couldn't have
been more direct, it was something like this If an election were held tomorrow which
party would you vote for

It clearly puts the NDP in second place and the Conservatives in minority territory.

Angus Reid is even more suggestive in the fact they are pointing out the NDP surge is
across the country and not just in one area.

Over all most poll trackers in media are going with Tory around 35% NDP 30%
Liberals 22% and the other two in single digits.

Now I agree it depends on riding vote splits and that is where it get interesting. We have
seen in the past where one party gets more votes across the country and less seats in
the House. The other factor is where do the undecided voters go? If they go NDP both
the Liberals and Conservative will suffer seat by seat. I think more will go NDP and
Conservative but it will be out of reach for many Liberals to take advantage of it.
In the end we will have a clear policy choice for the next one, as I think the Liberal vote
will shrink even more between now and Monday, interesting times.
 

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At this point I think I'm a bit numb to the crap being spewed from the ad campaigns. I don't think the propaganda will help the liberal side and I have a feeling Iggy knows that as well.

If they're going to go out with a bang, then now is the time to shock and awe. Make a surprise proposition that truly appeals to voters and put your accountability on the line for it.

Talking dish about the other guys is just wasted money at this point.

Ignatieff doesn't rule out possible NDP-Liberal merger


I doubt this is the 'shock and awe' you were hoping for, mentalfloss. I think Ig is losing it - big time.
 

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The numbers in parentheses denote the change from the three day rolling average of the Nanos Nightly Tracking ending on April 26th (n=1,200; committed voters only n=1020). *Undecided represents respondents who are not committed voters (n=1,200).

Canada (n=1012 committed voters)

Conservative 36.6% (-1.2)
NDP 30.4% (+2.6)
Liberal 21.9% (-1.0)
Bloc Quebecois 6.0% (+0.2)
Green 4.1% (-0.6)

*Undecided 15.8% (+0.9)
 

mentalfloss

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I wonder if many of those undecided could ever be Conservative, or if this is strictly an NDP/Liberal debate.
 

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I like many others that I know, lie to pollsters. It's nobdy's ****ing business as to who I will vote for. Wait and ****ing find out.
 

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The numbers in parentheses denote the change from the three day rolling average of the Nanos Nightly Tracking ending on April 27th (n=1,200; committed voters only n=1012). *Undecided represents respondents who are not committed voters (n=1,200).

Canada (n=1021 committed voters)
Conservative 36.4% (-0.2)
NDP 31.2% (+0.8
Liberal 22.0% (+0.1)
Bloc Quebecois 5.7% (-0.3)
Green 4.0% (-0.1)

*Undecided 15.0% (-0.8
 

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Exclusive: Majority Out of Reach, Tories say




NIAGARA FALLS—Stephen Harper's Conservatives must win 23 more seats in Ontario to achieve their coveted majority, a task that senior party insiders now admit is almost impossible, the Star has learned.

High-ranking sources confide that even with the collapse of Michael Ignatieff's Liberals — and NDP Leader Jack Layton's surge, which helps split the vote in many Ontario ridings — it will be very difficult to make such immense gains in Canada's most populous province.

At the dissolution of Parliament, the minority Tories held 51 of Ontario's 106 federal seats.

Party sources say the possible loss of several British Columbia ridings to the New Democrats — and others in Quebec, where Layton is surfing an orange wave — has forced them to revise their projections.

As of Thursday, they said they needed to win at least 74 seats in Ontario to achieve a majority.

“It all comes down to Ontario and we're just not there,” a source said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the party's internal polling is closely guarded. Another source confirmed the Tories' data echoes publicly available polls, such as Wednesday's Toronto Star-Angus Reid survey showing the Conservatives at 35 per cent, the New Democrats at 30 per cent and the Liberals at 22 per cent.

Nationwide, the governing party has 143 seats with two vacancies previously held by Conservatives. They must win 155 of Canada's 308 ridings for the majority that Harper insists is vital for economic stability.

Another plugged-in Tory lamented that the political dynamic is “eerily similar” to the 1990 Ontario election won by the New Democrats under Bob Rae. “(Tory Leader Mike) Harris shook loose the votes from (Liberal Leader David) Peterson, but they all went and voted for Rae,” said the insider. “Now Harper dusts up Iggy for a year, but the benefactor of the collapsing Liberal vote is not Harper, it's Jack,” the source said, adding there is currently no “seat matrix that gets Harper to a majority.”

While the Tories have said they can gain five seats in the Greater Toronto Area and perhaps two (Eglinton-Lawrence and York Centre) within the city limits, where they have not won since 1988, their projected tallies still fall short.

Speaking to a small group of supporters in Niagara Falls Thursday, Harper alluded to the tricky road map toward his desired majority. “Part of what to remember in this election is there's different races in every part of the country and in every riding,” he said. “And in every riding it is important that we continue to fight hard, that we not take everything for granted, that we get every vote out because every vote's going to count.”

The night before in St. Catharines, Harper stoked fears about a Layton-led administration by reminding Ontarians of another NDP government — at Queen's Park two decades ago. “Get the big decisions wrong and it will take a generation to dig ourselves out,” he said.

“Those here who remember the Liberal-NDP arrangement in the 1970s, remember how it took a generation to dig ourselves back out,” Harper said, referring to the minority government from 1972-74 led by then Liberal prime minister Pierre Trudeau with the support of David Lewis's New Democrats. “I don't have to remind you what it took here after an NDP government here in the province of Ontario,” he said. “You don't need that. We don't need that.”

Harper is expected hammer that message home Friday when he makes whistlestops in Kingston, Ajax and Brampton during a bus tour from Montreal to the GTA and again Saturday in Richmond Hill. But the Tories are concerned that if they target Layton too strongly in Ontario they may inadvertently help Ignatieff — and cost themselves precious seats in the process.

The emergence of many three-way races makes for a complex scenario on election day, insiders say.

They remain hopeful their superior get-out-the-vote organization — as well as Ontarians' concerns about what Harper calls “a ramshackle coalition led by the NDP” — will help them in the province.

However, Harper's daily plea for “a strong, stable, Conservative majority government” may be sounding more hollow in this most crucial of provinces.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...6--exclusive-majority-out-of-reach-tories-say
 

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If Harper is repeating the I need a majority it means he knows there is no hope of
forming a majority. The election is now coming down to who do you like and we
the people are responding to the like able factor. They don't trust Harper he is cold
and elusive, The Liberal leader gives the impression he is a cut above the rest of
and that leaves us with one choice now. This is going to go down to the wire and
it will be a game changer in Canadian politics.
 

mentalfloss

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Yea, Quebec appears to be really giving it up..

The people there must really hate conservatives these days??

NDP Wave Sweeps into Tory bastion of Quebec City: poll


MONTREAL—Yet another poll suggests that the astonishing rise of the NDP in Quebec shows no sign of abating.

What is surprising, however, is that the poll is referring to a region that no one ever thought the NDP could break into: Quebec City. The region is the Conservative Party’s bastion in Quebec. Most of its 11 seats in parliament come from the area.

But they are in trouble.


The CROP poll took the temperature of nine ridings, including six in Quebec City. It shows that the NDP could take several of them come May 2.

In Beauport-Limoilou, where the incumbent Tory Sylvie Boucher was considered threatened by the Bloc Québécois, it’s actually the NDP candidate Richard Côté who’s ahead, at 36 per cent support, with the Bloc candidate Michel Letourneau at 30 per cent and Boucher trailing with 27.

Côté was at just 20 per cent at the beginning of the campaign. In Charlesbourg-Haute-Saint-Charles, NDP candidate Anne-Marie Day is also on top with 35 per cent support, compared to 31 per cent for Tory incumbent Daniel Petit.

In the city centre, the riding of Quebec, the Bloc’s Christiane Gagnon, who has been the MP for 17 years, is scoring 34 per cent support, equal to that of the young NDP candidate Annick Papillon, who was interviewed on the city’s most popular talk radio morning show this week.

Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs Josée Verner’s seat is also not safe. She’s also scoring the same as her NDP rival Alexandrine Latendresse at 37 per cent.

And anything could happen in Portneuf-Jacques-Cartier, currently held by independent candidate André Arthur, against whom the Tories have not fielded a candidate since he votes with the party.

There, the NDP candidate Elaine Michaud is on top at 31 per cent, while Arthur is capturing 29 per cent and the Bloc, 28. Michaud’s ascent has been spectacular. In the last poll of the riding, she was in third place at 18 per cent.

The poll also showed that Veterans Affairs Minister Jean-Pierre Blackburn is just two percentage points ahead of his NDP rival in Jonquière-Alma, in the Saguenay region.

The poll was conducted between April 25 and 27 with 400 people canvassed in each riding. The results are considered accurate within 2.8 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.

NDP wave sweeps into Tory bastion of Quebec City: poll - thestar.com
 

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Exclusive: Majority Out of Reach, Tories say




NIAGARA FALLS—Stephen Harper's Conservatives must win 23 more seats in Ontario to achieve their coveted majority, a task that senior party insiders now admit is almost impossible, the Star has learned.

High-ranking sources confide that even with the collapse of Michael Ignatieff's Liberals — and NDP Leader Jack Layton's surge, which helps split the vote in many Ontario ridings — it will be very difficult to make such immense gains in Canada's most populous province.

At the dissolution of Parliament, the minority Tories held 51 of Ontario's 106 federal seats.

Party sources say the possible loss of several British Columbia ridings to the New Democrats — and others in Quebec, where Layton is surfing an orange wave — has forced them to revise their projections.

As of Thursday, they said they needed to win at least 74 seats in Ontario to achieve a majority.

“It all comes down to Ontario and we're just not there,” a source said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the party's internal polling is closely guarded. Another source confirmed the Tories' data echoes publicly available polls, such as Wednesday's Toronto Star-Angus Reid survey showing the Conservatives at 35 per cent, the New Democrats at 30 per cent and the Liberals at 22 per cent.

Nationwide, the governing party has 143 seats with two vacancies previously held by Conservatives. They must win 155 of Canada's 308 ridings for the majority that Harper insists is vital for economic stability.

Another plugged-in Tory lamented that the political dynamic is “eerily similar” to the 1990 Ontario election won by the New Democrats under Bob Rae. “(Tory Leader Mike) Harris shook loose the votes from (Liberal Leader David) Peterson, but they all went and voted for Rae,” said the insider. “Now Harper dusts up Iggy for a year, but the benefactor of the collapsing Liberal vote is not Harper, it's Jack,” the source said, adding there is currently no “seat matrix that gets Harper to a majority.”

While the Tories have said they can gain five seats in the Greater Toronto Area and perhaps two (Eglinton-Lawrence and York Centre) within the city limits, where they have not won since 1988, their projected tallies still fall short.

Speaking to a small group of supporters in Niagara Falls Thursday, Harper alluded to the tricky road map toward his desired majority. “Part of what to remember in this election is there's different races in every part of the country and in every riding,” he said. “And in every riding it is important that we continue to fight hard, that we not take everything for granted, that we get every vote out because every vote's going to count.”

The night before in St. Catharines, Harper stoked fears about a Layton-led administration by reminding Ontarians of another NDP government — at Queen's Park two decades ago. “Get the big decisions wrong and it will take a generation to dig ourselves out,” he said.

“Those here who remember the Liberal-NDP arrangement in the 1970s, remember how it took a generation to dig ourselves back out,” Harper said, referring to the minority government from 1972-74 led by then Liberal prime minister Pierre Trudeau with the support of David Lewis's New Democrats. “I don't have to remind you what it took here after an NDP government here in the province of Ontario,” he said. “You don't need that. We don't need that.”

Harper is expected hammer that message home Friday when he makes whistlestops in Kingston, Ajax and Brampton during a bus tour from Montreal to the GTA and again Saturday in Richmond Hill. But the Tories are concerned that if they target Layton too strongly in Ontario they may inadvertently help Ignatieff — and cost themselves precious seats in the process.

The emergence of many three-way races makes for a complex scenario on election day, insiders say.

They remain hopeful their superior get-out-the-vote organization — as well as Ontarians' concerns about what Harper calls “a ramshackle coalition led by the NDP” — will help them in the province.

However, Harper's daily plea for “a strong, stable, Conservative majority government” may be sounding more hollow in this most crucial of provinces.

Exclusive: Majority out of reach, Tories say - thestar.com


It ain't over until it's over. :smile:
 

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Quebecers are indeed very open to the idea of a coalition

Harpazoids from the state of Alberta have always had a problem with the way French Canadians are okay with Canada per se insolong as the Anglos would see it as a coalition of Anglos and Quebecois - the lion and the unicorn - instead of a subjugation of French by English which would happen so often back in the day...

Therefore YES Quebeckers are comfortable with coalitions, because as far as they're concerned, the entire dominion of Canada has been one big two-language coalition all along!

Come to think of it... technically speaking... isn't Canada a coalition of provinces, and isn't the US a coalition of states?

Isn't the EU a coalition of nations?

Anybody asked Harpo how he feels about the American and/or European coalitions?

According to Harpo's latest hate ads, coalitions are disorderly, therefore he's saying the US and the EU are disorderly and not as well ordered as if he was in charge, therefore he'd be able to run both of them better if it was done his way (heil Harper), which would be...

... with his coalition of the PCs, the Reform, and the National Citizen's Coalition (making it a coalition within a coalition)... aka the "Conservative" party.

Classic Harpocracy. He bad-mouths coalitions while attacking it with his coalition.

Look at this guy porking out with his watery little pig eyes.



I had another bad dream last night.

I was standing outside a polling station, watching a stream of happy, chattery people exiting, congratulating each other for all being together in agreement and being part of the same gang all on the same side.

In the dream it dawned on me that they were all Conservative voters, and it freaked me how many there were.

It occurred to me in the dream that the vast majority of them were not voting Conservative because they understood anything about Harper's right-wing coalition platform...

Rather, they were voting in order to feel like "one of the crowd".

Then I woke up... and had to go outside and stare at the stars for a bit.

Canada is vulnerable to a flaw in it's election system which the Australians fixed.

In Australia, they have an elected Senate, people have to vote, and they have *proportional* representation, which means, if Canada were Australia, the Green Party would have 8-9 seats in the House.

Way to go Canada... your southern brother... the other Commonwealth nation most like yourself: ie small population spread out over a wide territory with a hostile climate, except for them it is heat that kills, whereas for Canada it is cold that kills... both with an indigenous minority to make reconciliations with... etc. etc.

Your south-hemisphere brother has out-flanked you on democracy progress!

And you're about to be taken down by a mean-spirited minority serving only the interests of Wall street Plutocrats as a result, elected by people not knowing enough about macro economics and global free trade to know what they're voting for.

I've been wondering why Harper can make such blatantly false statements with no concern of being caught, while his opponents are careful to make sure their statements can be proven.

The fact that he feels no shame means he's working according to some agenda other than the best interests of Canada and Canadians, but still... how does he get away with it?

Then something dawned on me... it was something that Roosevelt said to General MacArthur when MacArthur asked the President what a person had to say in order to get elected.

In those days elections were based on live speeches before large crowds. Twittery little sound-bite ads on mass media hadn't taken over campaigning yet.

The President said (in so many words) "You size up the crowd and figure out where their heart or minds are at. If they are of mind, you repeat back to them what they are thinking, and if they are of heart, you repeat back to them what they are feeling".

In other words, that President was not saying to tell people what the policies were. He was saying to simply stand in front of them and verbalize what the crowd is already thinking or feeling.

My hunch is that Harper is targeting his core supporters by simply verbalizing the prejudices he knows their hearts and minds already hold.

He can know that cutting taxes to multinationals is not going to create jobs, but he knows his core constituents believe it, so he repeats that belief back to them, and he gets away with it because he knows they'll never check facts that would disprove their own beliefs.

Hmm...
 
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