Canada's Federal Election Polls
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No such place exists, mostly because people couldn't afford to stay abreast of as many issues as they would need to in order for it to be maintained: it would have to be a country comprised almost entirely of politicians... who would starve to death in short order. The best we can hope for is to elect benign dictators and have enough inherent checks in the system to stop too many abuses.
The NDP has never been elected federally so that's an assumption (probably a correct one but nevertheless). I can't imagine that they could do much but you'd at least see more protections for the population and they wouldn't take risks with the economy by deregulating, privatizing and investing in massive expenditures justified through fantasy economics. They have, minus a few "scandalous" moments, a respectable overall record in both areas at the provincial level (note that federal and provincial NDP policy is the same). If you are traditionally conservative but have a progressive mindset and don't like establishment interference in your personal life, then the NDP is the closest thing to that. If you're poor (if paying the bills is a hassle, you're poor), then voting anything other than NDP makes you certifiable.
Harper might have an issue about working with women. I've had supervisors and colleges in the past who were okay in terms of skills, but they'd get weird if they had to work with, or supervise, women, such that they'd do anything to avoid hiring female help, and they'd get all jittered and would run out for a quick martini if they'd been sitting at a boardroom table with a woman who'd talk back to them eye-to-eye.
Belinda Stronach implied as much when she cross the floor, although given what we've seen about Harper's ruling style, it might have been a simple case of she being the only one with the guts to tell him to kiss off when she learned how things were going to be now that the Reformers were in charge.
Harper doesn't lead... he *rules*.
How come?
Personally I think he'd be better as a diplomat to the UN or something like that, but I've read his stuff, and he sees the big picture in a good way, and I can't see how he'd be any problem as PM.
I understand... Jack may not be the prettiest peacock in the flock, but he's got the most experience dealing with the day-to-day grunge work of what most of governing is about.
What would be kind of cool would be if everyone voting BQ were to shift their vote to NDP, because the platforms are almost identical except for the BQ's extreme emphasis of requiring everything to be Quebec-centric.
I can understand that, and I can get along with 80% of women. As much as women think there should be one standard, it hasn't happened and I doubt if it will happen. Now I'm not talkin' about any women like I've seen on this forum, but there is a handful of pushy, shovy. loudmouthed women out there and you ain't going to get away with dealing with them like you do with a pushy, shovy, loud mouthed man (mind you those are really in the minority):lol:
Regarding what Harper did to Guergis, Let's not forget that the opposition parties were all screaming for her expulsion from Parliament not so long ago. Also, it was the Conservative Caucus that cast her out. She was a loose cannon all along. The latest caper that got her thrown out was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
I think she got what she deserved.
I w ould hate to see another minority government. Nothing will ever get accomplished. The opposition will block everything just on principle whether it is good or not. Besides, Harper had done a pretty good job through the recession. Why not give him a majority and see how it goes? If not, there'll be yet another election before we turn around and blink!
I'm not listening to anything the leaders say about each other, because it's all a lot of BS. They'll say anything to get power.
As far as the debt and the deficit go, it doesn't matter who governs, the fact is we are living beyond our means and the only way we can sustain our present social porgrams is to either borrow or raise taxes sky high.
Ignatiefff and Layton have big plans for the Health Care Reform. Really? How are they going to pay for their plans? Health care costs rise 6% per year and the economy only grows 4%. Something has to give! Either 1) a two tier system or 2) cut servies even further or 3) raise taxes dramatically.
Everybody needs to get in touch with reality. We can't afford everything, yet none of the parties are addressing this reality. Even the people themselves won't addressit.
We're in deep doo-doo, people!
It really doe'nt matter how you look at it, we really only have two choices for PM, Harper and Iggy.
There is no point in discussing their personalities, what you see is what you get.
The bottom line is, which one of these two leaders will make our lives wealthier and the country stronger to handle financial demands.
There is no point in discussing their personalities, what you see is what you get.
The bottom line is, which one of these two leaders will make our lives wealthier and the country stronger to handle financial demands.
I think you might well be right, but you don't discharge (fire) someone without telling them why and to go running to the Cops before giving her a chance to explain is just down right mean and ignorant. Christians (In theory anyway) don't treat people like that.
Okay. But the way I see it, 'running to the cops' was the only way to find out for sure whether her position had been compromised as the opposition was claiming it was. And I'm sure she had been warned many times about her wildcat ways and knew very well why she was fired.
The fuss she's making indicated to me that she is thinking only about revenge and saving face, NOT about making Parliament work better. She would apppear more prudent if she just ran as an independent and let the past stay past.
Just my opinion, mind you! E guess we're all entitled to one.
April 17
The numbers in parentheses denote the change from the three day rolling average
of the Nanos Nightly Tracking ending on April 17th (n=1,200; committed voters
only n=991). *Undecided represents respondents who are not committed voters
(n=1,200).
Canada (n=1,012 committed voters)
Conservative 39.8% (NC)
Liberal 30.2% (+0.4)
NDP 17.3% (-0.1)
Bloc Quebecois 8.6% (NC)
Green 3.1% (-0.3)
*Undecided 15.7% (-1.7)
The numbers in parentheses denote the change from the three day rolling average
of the Nanos Nightly Tracking ending on April 17th (n=1,200; committed voters
only n=991). *Undecided represents respondents who are not committed voters
(n=1,200).
Canada (n=1,012 committed voters)
Conservative 39.8% (NC)
Liberal 30.2% (+0.4)
NDP 17.3% (-0.1)
Bloc Quebecois 8.6% (NC)
Green 3.1% (-0.3)
*Undecided 15.7% (-1.7)
Well, if you're going to narrow it down to that, the answer is Iggy, for a whole bunch of reasons.
Oooooooooooh Ooooooooooooooh Ouch!:smile:
When politicians get into the "theatrics" to try to convince people that should be the first signal to "deep six" 'em. :smile:
Lots will get accomplished. Just like lots got accomplished under the previous minority government.
What won't get accomplished is the evil stuff bad enough to motivate all three opposition parties to unite... which isn't easy... it has to be pretty bad to get them to do that.
Harper's a corporate tool, and if you guys think that giving him a free reign is going to create one idjit more jobs than would happen without him you're totally living in financial la la land.
What's going to happen is that China might succeed in convincing it's people to change a certain thing about how they do things. I know it is, but I'm not going to tell you to see if you have been keeping on top of things and therefore have a worthy opinion or if you're just blowing smoke.
If China achieves that objective, its demand for resources will become even higher, so it will come to Canada for resources, and will pay whatever Canada is charging, because for the minerals I'm talking about the only other sources are south Africa and Russia, neither of which is selling to China right now.
It means not only do you not have to cut corporate taxes, you could crank them up, and they're *still* going to operate because China will *still* have no other place to go for the minerals.
So what will happen is:
1) Harper get power he will do his un-necessary tax-cuts pandering to the Wall street shareholder Plutocrats, the Chinese will come in and take as many minerals as they can carry, the economy will do better but not as good as things used to be, and morons will say Harper should be congratulated when he will have had *nothing* to do with any sort of recovery, because that's being decided in China now, rather, he'll simply be feeding profits off to the Plutocrats in order for the recovery to not be as good as it could be,
or
2) Iggy restores the taxes closer to a sensible level, the Chinese come in, pay top dollar for the minerals, which they can because they have all the money now and which they will because if their latest round of internal policy influences get traction they'll have no choice, which means the government can tax more and the unions can be paid more, which means now the government can get health care and family support in order and the workers will have money to spend to get the tertiary parts of the economy going, and things will get somewhat closer to how things were in the 70s, which was Canada's most prosperous decade with the highest standard of living.
But you watch what will happen if Harper gets in.
Things will get a *little* bit better when China comes in, when it would have got a *lot* better under Iggy because he would have charged them more and kept more in the country...
Yet, the hollowed-out straw-man jack-o-lanterns forming the core of Harper's constituency will dance around and hoot and congratulate themselves about how right they were to support Harper because look what a great job he's doing improving the economy...
... when in fact, they've been tossed nickles out of a resource export boom which they could have got dollars from and the Chinese would have still payed.
