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Next week's theme is songs from the 21st century. Songs younger than the Idols, what a revolutionary idea!
Next week's theme is songs from the 21st century. Songs younger than the Idols, what a revolutionary idea!
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I was livid earlier tonight. I said in my last post that I've been campaigning for Stephano's ouster for weeks and when Paul got kicked off instead I completely lost it 
Paul? PAUL!? Over Stephano? How the hell does that kid keep surviving? He suuuuucks! He sucks soo much! He sings awful, performs worse and picks horrible songs.
I watch the show for Paul, James and Casey, and I'm liking Haley more. Now I can't hear Paul anymore and I have to put up with at least another week of that bum Stephano?
My girlfriends usually think my opinions on American Idol are crazy but even they agreed kicking off Paul was a crime. Would anyone buy a cookie-cutter pop or R&B album from Stephano? Seriously, he's got nothing. But I'd buy Paul's folky rock album especially if Maggie May is on it, which he does waay better than Rod Stewart.
Anyway, I thought the Casey and Haley duet was awesome too, but I'm not sure I saw the same chemistry between the two of them the rest of you saw. I kinda like Haley more and I wish she'd sing more jazzy tunes. She was amazing tonight. And that dress! Where can I buy one?
Scotty and Lauren obviously go well together and I assume that's why they had them duet twice in a row. Lauren doesn't do a lot of country but it seems like she'd be good at it. Maybe she doesn't like it. I groaned when she did a Miley Cyrus song on Wednesday night.
The guys quartet sucked because Stephano mucked it up with his horrible voice. Can you tell I don't like Stephano? I would have loved to hear Paul do Mrs. Robinson solo, but I'll never hear him again! :sadface:
Paul? PAUL!? Over Stephano? How the hell does that kid keep surviving? He suuuuucks! He sucks soo much! He sings awful, performs worse and picks horrible songs.I watch the show for Paul, James and Casey, and I'm liking Haley more. Now I can't hear Paul anymore and I have to put up with at least another week of that bum Stephano?
My girlfriends usually think my opinions on American Idol are crazy but even they agreed kicking off Paul was a crime. Would anyone buy a cookie-cutter pop or R&B album from Stephano? Seriously, he's got nothing. But I'd buy Paul's folky rock album especially if Maggie May is on it, which he does waay better than Rod Stewart.
Anyway, I thought the Casey and Haley duet was awesome too, but I'm not sure I saw the same chemistry between the two of them the rest of you saw. I kinda like Haley more and I wish she'd sing more jazzy tunes. She was amazing tonight. And that dress! Where can I buy one?
Scotty and Lauren obviously go well together and I assume that's why they had them duet twice in a row. Lauren doesn't do a lot of country but it seems like she'd be good at it. Maybe she doesn't like it. I groaned when she did a Miley Cyrus song on Wednesday night.
The guys quartet sucked because Stephano mucked it up with his horrible voice. Can you tell I don't like Stephano? I would have loved to hear Paul do Mrs. Robinson solo, but I'll never hear him again! :sadface:
Woot! Woot! This Loud Morning to be released on June 28!
David Cook's Sophomore Album To Be Released 6/28 | DavidCookOfficial.com
I LOVE both the title of the album and the cover picture!!!!!!!
ETA: Bigger picture of the cover: http://www.rcarecords.com/davidcook/DavidCook_tlm_FINAL.jpg
Did you check out his band, The Grand Magnolias? You'd probably like their stuff!
And I think Lauren is very much a country singer, I think she did at least a couple of country songs already on the show (aside from the duets with Scotty). I think she's also more versatile than Scotty, so she can easily sing other stuff.
David Cook's Sophomore Album To Be Released 6/28 | DavidCookOfficial.com
I LOVE both the title of the album and the cover picture!!!!!!!
ETA: Bigger picture of the cover: http://www.rcarecords.com/davidcook/DavidCook_tlm_FINAL.jpg
Did you check out his band, The Grand Magnolias? You'd probably like their stuff!
And I think Lauren is very much a country singer, I think she did at least a couple of country songs already on the show (aside from the duets with Scotty). I think she's also more versatile than Scotty, so she can easily sing other stuff.
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...because I don't think Lambert has gotten enough exposure on Idol this season. Only one lousy song, and his picture featured ever so briefly in the credits, and all. So I propose a petition. Since JLo got the People cover, I guess that's out. The Songs of AL thing is one option, or maybe more mentoring. Or we could petition Fox to change the name of the show to "American Idol (Except Season 8 When The Runner Up Was So Much Better)". It's kind of unweildly but ladies, I think it's only fair, don't you? Meanwhile, do keep writing the network and tell then that NAL must never appear on the show again - even in the audience. We'll get you, my pretty! And your little dog, too!!
Okay, lighten up, I was just joshing. All you who may object to my ribaldry.
But seriously, have you ever noticed that in the opening credits, just as Kris's panel is shown, this big pointy thing swoops across it and obscures it? I mean, wtf? I was like: "I think that's Kris." It's a little hard to tell.
Now...as for Paul vs. Stefano. Were they both in the bottom three? I didn't watch. Who else was? I suppose I could look this up, but I'm on my trust Dell with Windows 2000, and loading MJ's blog is like making the computer haul a piano up three flights of stairs.
I don't feel invested in this season enough to care - but I agree Stefano is kinda ... whatever you said. I also had a feeling he'd last a while, because he seems like the type people want to root for - the underdog who keeps trying. This is something people refer to K. Allen as - but Stefano is actually an underdog, often on the verge of being eliminated, giving just-barely-passable performances, etc. Being in the bottom two, etc. Hanging on by a thread. I think that explains why people who do like him probably vote their asses off for him, and that's why he's squeaking by. I don't know, though.
Meanwhile, do keep writing the network and tell then that NAL must never appear on the show again - even in the audience. We'll get you, my pretty! And your little dog, too!!Okay, lighten up, I was just joshing. All you who may object to my ribaldry.
But seriously, have you ever noticed that in the opening credits, just as Kris's panel is shown, this big pointy thing swoops across it and obscures it? I mean, wtf? I was like: "I think that's Kris." It's a little hard to tell.
Now...as for Paul vs. Stefano. Were they both in the bottom three? I didn't watch. Who else was? I suppose I could look this up, but I'm on my trust Dell with Windows 2000, and loading MJ's blog is like making the computer haul a piano up three flights of stairs.
I don't feel invested in this season enough to care - but I agree Stefano is kinda ... whatever you said. I also had a feeling he'd last a while, because he seems like the type people want to root for - the underdog who keeps trying. This is something people refer to K. Allen as - but Stefano is actually an underdog, often on the verge of being eliminated, giving just-barely-passable performances, etc. Being in the bottom two, etc. Hanging on by a thread. I think that explains why people who do like him probably vote their asses off for him, and that's why he's squeaking by. I don't know, though.
The album cover looks good!! And I love the title
I can get behind ousting Stefano this week...gee I wish they'd let America vote against someone, lol
And Ross I agree with Dave on Demand. I just don't get the America won't vote for a girl theory when there's been 4 female winners.
I can get behind ousting Stefano this week...gee I wish they'd let America vote against someone, lol
And Ross I agree with Dave on Demand. I just don't get the America won't vote for a girl theory when there's been 4 female winners.
Me either. And last year there was a female who placed second. I think that's why all this started, though. Many people thought Crystal lost and Lee won because of gender biases. As usual, that's an oversimplification. There's always some simplistic explanation for everything, which really gets tedious. It doesn't work like that.
Yes, there have been three male winners, they each competed against different people, in different seasons, faced different circumstances - and different judges - and they competed against a lot of other "cute" males who didn't win (Lee, vs. Casey, Tim, Aaron; Cook, vs. Archie, Jason Castro, Michael Johns) It's easy to go backwards from the result and draw conclusions, but you can't.
I like D. Cook's picture on the album cover - great shot. I like the title, also
Asking for good lighting is different from asking for a famous collaborator. I'm shocked you don't see the difference :sad3:. Zakk Wylde got as much camera time as James and Zakk was trending on twitter. If James wants to do it on final results show, that's great but when he wants to do it during a time when people judge his performance and he gets help from a charismatic musician that's not ok.
I'm starting root for Haley. If she sang in competition like she sang during her duet with Casey, she'd be a frontrunner. I hope she will make the right song choices.
Looks like you both agree that it was unfair. I think that's the main thing, right?
Jacob got to sing MITM with the woman who wrote it, Siedah Garrett. That didn't seemed 100% fair, either. Granted, she had already been on the show this season (backing up Haley) - she wasn't brought in, like Zakk - but she wrote the song. If the songwriter is onstage singing her song with you, it's like a seal of approval.
Not exactly the same, but not that different. Adam more or less started it. He didn't ask for collaborators, but he did ask for more stagecraft than anyone had ever employed before, to enhance his performances. It wasn't just about good lighting. It's asking for something special for yourself, that's different from what the other performers have - and getting it. Really, anything outside of your own ability to perform can be construed as extraneous, and as unbalancing the competition.
I think it all depends on where you draw the line. Originally, the goal of AI seemed to have been to present a fair competition with everyone starting out equal and competing on a level field.
Now I think the show is desperate for ratings and approval, and will do anything. Like the burning piano. Do I think it's unfair? Yes. But the fact is, the audience is no different from us, and they get it, too. So sometimes it backfires, also. People don't like unfairness.
Plus, they question: if the person is so good, why do they need help?
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Are you serious? Having smple visual effects such as lights is so different from having a famous collaborator. Almost half the performance was about Zakk and he even stood next to James during the judging and said “He sung his ass off, without a doubt” :roll:. If they need backup singers and guitarists they should be in the background. If they really let the contestants collaborate with known respected musicians that get a lot of attention whats next? Scotty and Garth Brooks? :lol:
Let me check. Yup, I'm serious. (And I assume SleepinIn was serious).
If this is "simple visual effects such as lights," I'll eat my studded leather bracelet.
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I already said I agreed James having the famous guitar player in his number was unfair. Don't know what else I can say. We can agree to disagree over Lambert's lighting and staging and so forth. That was then, this is now.
They're limiting instruments this season - some people think that's unfair. We could go round and round.
I think all guest performers playing with the Idols should be limited to results nights and the finale. I think favoritism should be at a minimum. I also think the singers should have minimal lighting and stage effects - at least for most rounds - that's why I miss the small stage. But that's just me. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. Mainly I think the focus should be on music, and the performing of it. I'm not too into glorifying the performer apart from the music - and making it all about the looks, lights, costume, sets - to me, that's a whole other show. But the line has been blurred and it seems there's no going back.
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So, latest word on LA Spring fair is it's cancelled. Kris felt bad that people made road trips, and so forth. A show has been scheduled at midnight, the same night, at the Viper Room, Johnny Depp's former club ( I think he was a co-owner), in West Hollywood.
I agree with Zakk being over the top to be honest. I don't think AI should have done that for James, I don't think Jacob should have sang with the original songwriter of MITM, I don't think James should have set his piano on fire - except that all these things were fun and I enjoyed them all - but the point is in a competition there should be a level field of play. But no one ever said life was fair.
So if James sets his piano on fire.. Haley should be able to sing upside down on a swing.. except Haley didn't think to ask for that.. and James did. So what now? If AI is making a TV show, which they are, then if something is entertaining they're going to consider it. So they should all be thinking of ways to be entertaining.
Yes. This is something that's usually been reserved for the results nights, adding it to the competition nights changed the game.
Pretty much
That's kind of simplistic, but it's a slippery slope. The point is that Adam knew to ask for it. James asked for Zakk Wylde. It was up to AI to provide an even playing field or change the rules of the game. They changed the rules of the game. So everyone should just try to get as much entertainment value out of their 2:00 minute song. Whether it's lighting, famous songwriter, or famous guitarist.If you can get it why not at least try to ask for it? It's the exact same with song choice. If Kris hadn't asked for Falling Slowly - we'd never have heard it since it wasn't on the list they were given. Basically if they can dream it and get AI to make it happen then IMHO they deserve it.
It's not fair. But what is?
Don't forget that when Jacob sang Man in the Mirror, unfairly as some claim with the songwriter as backup, he ended up in the bottom three for the first time the following night.
Yup, good point, Corduroy.
I thought by posting that clip, CapsuleNeo - which was so over the top with the fog machines, and so forth - I was showing it was much more than blue light. If it makes you feel any better, I didn't know who Zakk Wylde was and I just thought, "Gee, that guy in the band is getting a really nice solo." I'm sure it went over a lot of people's heads - even if the judges or Ryan (not sure who) mentioned it later.
True, but I think the show can decide to be fair or not - unfairness can be avoided more in a competition than in life. But the show is under no obligation to be fair - they can do whatever they want. And they often do. To me this makes it a much less interesting or exciting show. Can't really explain that, except to say, think of sports. If the rules weren't strict - if the rules kept changing to suit the situation - people wouldn't watch any more.
I thought by posting that clip, CapsuleNeo - which was so over the top with the fog machines, and so forth - I was showing it was much more than blue light. If it makes you feel any better, I didn't know who Zakk Wylde was and I just thought, "Gee, that guy in the band is getting a really nice solo." I'm sure it went over a lot of people's heads - even if the judges or Ryan (not sure who) mentioned it later.
True, but I think the show can decide to be fair or not - unfairness can be avoided more in a competition than in life. But the show is under no obligation to be fair - they can do whatever they want. And they often do. To me this makes it a much less interesting or exciting show. Can't really explain that, except to say, think of sports. If the rules weren't strict - if the rules kept changing to suit the situation - people wouldn't watch any more.
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Hee! Yes, well no one ever said that everything you do is going to work.
I actually do agree with this - LOL - although it might not seem like it. I think at the very least limiting celebrity guests would be a good thing in a competition. But since they threw out the rules might as well ask for the moon and see what you get. Set your own piano (figuratively) on fire.
Yeah, I see what you're saying. I wasn't really disagreeing, I was kind of expanding on the whole idea of rules. I think it would be fun sometimes with more limits.
For example, let's say one week they had "jeans and t-shirts" week, where they could have no special costumes or lighting, and they could choose exactly three instruments to accompany them, and that's it. Then, see what people come up with under these limits. Makes it a bit more interesting when there are challenges imposed. I don't know. That isn't what I meant about rules, though - just a tangent.
Yes I agree there's no harm in asking for what you want. I think that for artists who don't work that way (Stefano, Pia, or Paul), it may make them seem dull in comparison, which is the downside. I mean, just because someone may have the good taste not to want to set a piano on fire, they shouldn't be penalized by the voters. I worry that it's a bit like the movie, Network, where all that matters is ratings, regardless of how outrageous and in bad taste TV gets. If anyone had told me that CBS, the classiest of networks - the "Tiffany" of networks, as it was called - would ever have a show where people ate worms and bugs - in a competition - I would have laughed - but they did. What was my point? I forget. lol