More Needless Multiculturalism Problems From Immigrants

[Bar Sinister]

Sorry, you're right.

On both counts...........personally I see China as an emerging fascist nation, controlled econmoy, economic elite, large inportant military, no human rights, ......and nationalism used as a force of internal control, for suppression of dissent and manufactured approval of an aggressive foreign policy.....

I mean it is very similar, IMHO.

I was curious about yours.

I have always believed that by the time it was ready to die the USSR and other communist states resembled fascist dictatorships more than those advocating Marxist ideals. I don't think China is any different now. China's government no longer espouses egalitarianism, the main characteristic of a socialist state; instead it now celebrates social inequality while barely paying lip service to the great mass of the population it is supposed to serve. The only fascist characteristic modern China seems to lack is one aimed at world military domination, but then it doesn't have to; within a few decades its economy will be overwhelming dominant.

 

[The Old Medic]

I say, sentence the parents to being bombarded with Country Music, 16 hours a day, for 60 days in a row. By the end of that time, their intellects will be so low, that they won't complain about nothin!

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Multiculturalism is not about the govt spending money to allow immigrants to keep their culture, it is about letting immigrants be themselves when they come. There is no law saying the govt must spend money to allow them to stay outside Canadain culture. That is simply not so, otherwise why come to Canada?

But by allowing so many immigrants to come to Canada, the govt is allowing ethnic enclaves to grow so they don't have to integrate, or integrate at a much slower rate than years ago. Size matters here. Which allows Muslim immigrants to wear a burka, which is not integrating at all.

Some want assimilation and integration to be optional, to do that is a problem.

 

[china]

Damn right I'm a bigot.

I have standards.

That is being a bigot against people without standards.

While all you lovely, touchy-feely, sophisticated, morally superior relativists will stand around and watch the greatest civilization that ever existed get flushed down the toilet because you don't have the brains or the balls to confront the medieval scum that are set on destroying it.

Western civilization will go down in history as the first civilization to fall because its people were too stupid and lazy to haul their fat arses off the sofa to defend it.......physically or philosophically.

That's what happens when you create a people so spoiled, so removed from reality, so steeped in secular nihilism that they simply can't deal with hard reality.

The only thing I like LESS than a hard-core Islamist is an idiot relativist.

At least the Islamist believes in SOMETHING!

Colpy

Western civilization will go down in history as the first civilization to fall because its people were too stupid and lazy to haul their fat arses off the sofa to defend it.......physically or philosophically.

I agree with you Colpy .

 

[Sparrow]

Here is something Sir Wilfrid Laurier wrote in 1907 regarding immigration:

In the first place we should insist that the immigrant who comes here have a firm intention of becoming a Canadian and to assimilate with us, he should be treated the same as all of us, because it would be an outrage to discriminate against him/her because of the beliefs or where they were born or country of origin. However it is the responsibility of the person to become a Canadian in all of its aspects, and nothing else but a Canadian. There cannot be any divided allegiance here. All persons who say they are Canadian as well as something else while trying to impose their culture and beliefs on us are not Canadians. We have place for only one flag, the Canadian Flag. There is only place to two languages English and French. We only have place for one but one loyalty, and that is loyalty to the Canadian people. We will not accept anyone, and I repeat anyone who tries to impose his/her religion or moral standards.

Signed
Wilfrid Laurier, 1907

I translate above as close to the French version as possible so as not to change the message. This was written 114 yrs. ago but it is still valid today.

 

[Johnnny]

deleted my bad. I posted a quote i found out was not actually real

 

[ironsides]

Australian prime minister says "NO" - Second time she has done this.

She sure isn't backing down on her hard line stance and one has to
appreciate her belief in the rights of her native countrymen..

A breath of fresh air to see someone lead. I wish some leaders would step
up in Canada & USA .

Australian Prime Minister does it again!!

This woman should be appointed Queen of the World... Truer words have never
been spoken.

It took a lot of courage for this woman to speak what she had to say for
the world to hear. The retribution could be phenomenal, but at least she
was willing to take a stand on her and Australia 's beliefs.

The whole world needs a leader like this!





Prime Minister Julia Gillard - Australia

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday
to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to
head off potential terror attacks..

Separately, Gillard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying
she supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote:

"IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT-- Take It Or Leave It."

"I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some
individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have
experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.

This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials
and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.

We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese,
Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our
society, learn the language!

Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing,
political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian
principles, founded this nation and this is clearly documented. It is
certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God
offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your
new home, because God is part of our culture.

We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is
that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.

This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND and OUR LIFESTYLE and we will allow you
every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining,
whining, and griping about our flag, our pledge, our Christian beliefs, or
our way of life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great
Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.

If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here.
You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

The Ozzie PM is just laying down some basic rules for newcomers.

 

[Durry]

The Ozzie PM is just laying down some basic rules for newcomers.

These are not just SOME rules, it seems to me she is making it very clear the basis on which she is going to govern the country and she expects immigrants to fall in line or get out.

I think every Muslim in Canada should get a copy of her speech and told this also applies to Canada.

 

[Johnnny]

Not just muslims but everyone else too

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Not just muslims but everyone else too

Too many people are looking for exemptions in Canada because their group has political clout. Which is exactly how third world countries operate. Slowly the country degrades with overly high immigration for political purposes.

 

[BaalsTears]

Are Islamic societies tolerant of multiculturalism?


Here's an interesting story:
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20110303/news.caligirlescpesarrangedmarriage/

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

That's if thry're not tricked to travel India and trapped into marry some boy there. Saw it on a doc on CBC.

 

[Durry]

Yeah I saw the doc as well.
Pretty discusting !!!
We gotta find a way to prevent this from happening.

This is just another example where immigrants from certain countries always bring their cultural garbage with them.
We gotta have them leave their cultural garbage at home or not immigrate people from certain countries. I am tired of looking after certain immigrants after giving them an opportunity to improve their lives .

 

[Bar Sinister]

There seems to be some confusion about what multiculturalism actually is. Tricking Canadians into phony marriages in order to get into the country is not multiculturalism; it is a criminal act. Clinging fanatically to outmoded customs isn't multiculturalism either. Multiculturalism is essentially the voluntary sharing of of various customs whether they are introduced by immigrants or borrowed from other cultures.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

There seems to be some confusion about what multiculturalism actually is. Tricking Canadians into phony marriages in order to get into the country is not multiculturalism; it is a criminal act. Clinging fanatically to outmoded customs isn't multiculturalism either. Multiculturalism is essentially the voluntary sharing of of various customs whether they are introduced by immigrants or borrowed from other cultures.

But multiculturalism has allowed immigration levels to get too high and allow these groups to live together and not assimilate. When the assimilation process is too slow they get disaffected and aggressively resist Canadianization and assert old country traditions here. Like wearing the Burka.

Many of these problems would vanish if immigration numbers were reduced to 100,000 per year and half of the immigrants came from western countries, and the other half from Asia and Africa.

 

[Durry]

Many of these problems would vanish if immigration numbers were reduced to 100,000 per year and half of the immigrants came from western countries, and the other half from Asia and Africa.

I agree, immigration levels should be reduced to about 100k per year.
But I think we should reduce those from South Asia, middle east and Africa down to about 20k per year.

 

[petros]

Almost 100 years ago North Americans feared the Eastern European immigrants. These days you won't find a Christmas dinner on the Prairies that lacks a pyrohy regardless of you heritage.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

I agree, immigration levels should be reduced to about 100k per year.
But I think we should reduce those from South Asia, middle east and Africa down to about 20k per year.

That's no too unreasonable of a proposition.

We've only had these superhigh immigration levels for 20 years, about 300,000+ per year, they are relatively new. Reading the media one gets the impression that they are an inevitable, a force of nature, we can do nothing about them. It is a TINA situation it appears. Not. This is a very Asiatic, ie, fatalistic, attitude.

 

[petros]

We are a consumer driven economy. Without fresh blood to buy things the entire world economy is wounded.