Catchin' Z's on the Job

karrie

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Jan 6, 2007
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Way back when I worked for MTO, we had cruisers pull into the dome - out of sight - so a cop could catch a power nap. No problem with that. Nobody's going to easily walk up to them in there. Cops aren't the most popular folk in the world among certain segments of the population. The photographer stopped his vehicle close to theirs. He was close enough to get a good shot. It's not the nap. It's dropping the guard that is stupid.

I don't think your Hubby is as choice a target.

He's worked in oil fields where terrorism was a big threat... whack jobs taking pot shots at patch trucks, etc. But no, normally he's not a target for violence. Cops shouldn't be either though, so calling for their termination over something like this seems odd to me.
 

lone wolf

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He's worked in oil fields where terrorism was a big threat... whack jobs taking pot shots at patch trucks, etc. But no, normally he's not a target for violence. Cops shouldn't be either though, so calling for their termination over something like this seems odd to me.
Did I call for anyone's termination? Hell, I was a long-distance trucker. Sleeping on the job is required by law - just not while driving.
 

Unforgiven

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Utilities.

I think I see the problem.



I don't think anybody would disagree with that.



Most people know that as well however, tell that to the public when you have a geyser coming out of the road because of a broken water main....or a breakdown on a pump that feeds chlorine into the drinking water....too bad so sad! I've worked my eight hours and I'm going home. That might happen in your world but here in reality, it's a different story.

Then there are issues with staffing levels

Reality is that the unions and the government have built for their own benefit a negative and adversarial relationship that hurts only the workers and the public. The union works to screw the government and the government works to screw the workers. It has nothing at all to do with saving money, providing the services paid for or a fair compensation for a fair days work. I can't count how many city workers have left at lunch while someone else swipes out for them at quitting time. While it's hard work having to work until the job is done, having all those days when you don't work a lick, go fishing and spend time drinking beer in the shop on Friday afternoons. Please excuse my lack of sympathy. Do try that business in the private sector and see how things work out for you.

Mass police, firefighter layoffs begin in Camden | NJ.com

With half the police and a third of the firefighters gone, do you really believe the remaining workers are not going to be overworked, stressed and tired?

You have a union, it negotiated on your behalf. If you don't have the working conditions you want, that's who you blame. And you should probably know that in the last Mayoral election here in Toronto one of the campaign promises of Rob Ford who won the election was to increase police by 100 officers. This was flatly turned down by the chief of police Bill Blair. So if there was a shortage, I am sure they would have accepted that offer. Mind you they did put in for a raise in pay.

There is no reason at all for anyone to sleep on the job with this many people looking for work. If you are too busy going out and carousing all night to work your shift without having to go to sleep for part of it, get out because no one wants that level of service. Not to mention it just solidifies the idea of union slackers in the work force so that politicians can justify cutting back on the amount of workers for any given field. Everyone knows if there is time to sleep on the job, there are too many people on the payroll.
 

Cannuck

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Reality is that the unions and the government have built for their own benefit a negative and adversarial relationship that hurts only the workers and the public. The union works to screw the government and the government works to screw the workers. It has nothing at all to do with saving money, providing the services paid for or a fair compensation for a fair days work. I can't count how many city workers have left at lunch while someone else swipes out for them at quitting time. While it's hard work having to work until the job is done, having all those days when you don't work a lick, go fishing and spend time drinking beer in the shop on Friday afternoons. Please excuse my lack of sympathy. Do try that business in the private sector and see how things work out for you.

I'd love to know what municipality you are referring to. I'm not aware of any that even allow alcohol into the building or onto a job site let alone consuming it while at work. In fact, alcohol consumption was far more of a problem in the private sector companies I have worked in.

You have a union, it negotiated on your behalf. If you don't have the working conditions you want, that's who you blame. And you should probably know that in the last Mayoral election here in Toronto one of the campaign promises of Rob Ford who won the election was to increase police by 100 officers. This was flatly turned down by the chief of police Bill Blair. So if there was a shortage, I am sure they would have accepted that offer. Mind you they did put in for a raise in pay.

As I allude to before, you clearly don't know what is or isn't involved in labour negotiations. You can't simply negotiate "working condition"

There is no reason at all for anyone to sleep on the job with this many people looking for work.

I agree but that is the fault of management as they are the ones that decide staffing levels. If the municipality I work for refuses to hire more workers despite an excessive work load, it really doesn't matter how many people are looking for work.

If you are too busy going out and carousing all night to work your shift without having to go to sleep for part of it, get out because no one wants that level of service.

Yes, because "carousing all night" is the only reason somebody would be tired at work...LOL

Not to mention it just solidifies the idea of union slackers in the work force so that politicians can justify cutting back on the amount of workers for any given field. Everyone knows if there is time to sleep on the job, there are too many people on the payroll.

Who says there is time to sleep?
 

eh1eh

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DUH ! ! !. Hi. I have a gun and I'm unconscious at the side of a public road during my regular shift with what amounts to advertisement about my having a gun plastered all over the side of my car. (note: not like karrie's vice friends that work doubles and probably don't nap with a big sign on their car about them having guns and sh1t).